Saturday, June 27, 2015

Sad Week for the civilized world

In a matter of days, the U.S Supreme Court handed out not one but two rulings which firmly go against the will of the American people. Both are based on specious reasoning and stink of political maneuvering and back room deals.

Ann Coulter had warned us about John Roberts in 2005 that a tabula rasa such as himself was far worse than a liberal justice. Whether Roberts chose to commit these travesties against the Republic because he was a closet liberal or Obama in his characteristic Chicago manner of dirty tricks not limited to blackmail or other threats worked his "magic" on him, only history will tell.

To be fair, even as he disgraced himself on Obamacare , he did make up for it by writing a superb dissent on Obergeffel(gay marriage case). I guess the tyrant Obama knows his own limits, which is heartening in its own twisted way.

Anyhow her words have proven to be prescient. He has folded not once but twice on the Leviathan in waiting- Obama care and has given his blessing on the perversion of a millennia old sacrament- gay marriage.

Both of these found scant support amongst the level headed populace of Americans despite overwhelming media, academia, Hollywood and other top down propaganda tactics- both crude and sophisticated.

While Obama care would entail catastrophes not just in the medical field but in the economy as a whole, it can still be managed and in time deregulated or just plain ignored.

However the moral and societal rot that homosexuals bring to the table with their inherent fascism hidden behind a deceptively gregarious persona is a lot harder to ignore.

A decade ago it seemed that the notion of homosexuals suing bakers or photographers who wished to abide by their beliefs and not serve offer their services for a gay wedding seemed surreal.

Today it is a reality and it is going to get worse. Heck there are already liberal film critics fuming that about jokes in movies which feature straight men's distaste for giving oral sex to another man. Apparently such preferences are "homophobic". Perhaps it is only a matter of time before straight men are mandated to have a homosexual experience to overcome their "homophobia".

Lets not get started on the trans gendered lunacy which is another matter altogether. Again as of last year, "transphobic" was considered a comical word , not anymore. You MUST love Caitlyn Jenner or else.

Sounds incredible? Well so did the notion of a baker being sued for not baking a cake at one time.

Pretty much all civilizations fell due to hedonism of which homosexuality is a part and parcel. Of course no healthy civilization without sin. Indeed I support homosexuals right to their odd lifestyle/life choices as long as they conduct themselves with proper decorum and do it in private. But apparently their call for tolerance was just a ruse , it was a taqqiya until they gathered enough support to impose their will.

This guy had the number of the homosexual lobby and their MO

Razor @hale_razor
1 "All we want is to be out of the shadows."
2 "All we want is acceptance"
3 "All we want is equality"
4 "Your view belongs in the shadows."
It is impossible to fire homosexual employees without suffering grievous economic social and financial repercussions. Even if they have been caught molesting teenagers.

Dishonest and disgusting people dismiss the idea of same sex pederasts as homosexual by claiming they identify as "straight" . It is curiously hypocritical that of homosexuals to co opt famous people as gay GAY GAY GAY , DID YOU KNOW HE WAS GAY?! because a personality like say Abraham Lincoln once shared a bed with another man(due to poverty than anything else) but suddenly assure us that NAMBLA is certainly not a gay organization just because it consists of adult males preying on young boys though the reality is less delightful . Apparently lesbians are given more leeway than straight men. A vagina monologues play about an adult lesbian who drugged and raped a thirteen year old girl received rave reviews.

Sen. Ted Cruz and Gov. Scott Walker reacted in a righteous and courageous manner against the tyranny of the judicial and executive branch and the fecklessness of the two Houses.

I am afraid their attempts even if they should win can only temporarily stem the tide.

We are done "debating" with the all manner of assorted freaks and pathological liars about government intrusion in the guise of gay/tranny rights, atheism, feminism, global warming, Obama care, hate speech, mandatory "diversity", gun control economic equality and other falsehoods and assaults on liberty. Debating them got us in this situation because they have never debated in good faith.

At this point, it is best to fight fire with fire. If America is indeed the New Rome, let it go for the gold and initiate a military coup and do away with rotten edifice of a "republic"and recreate another from its ashes. Lets hope Col. James Mattis can come out of retirement.

Once again you freaks, weirdos and parasites: We are done debating with you because you don't argue in good faith and you stab us in the back while smiling, smiling , smiling

It is time to settle the debate on our terms for a change: with a firing squad. I am done. Think what you will of  this.

Sunday, June 21, 2015

Kunal Singh:Tantra, Yantra, Mantra in mainstream Hinduism

To clear up some misconceptions I want to make it clear that yogis do use
certain herbs both orally and by inhalation.  But the herbs are not taken to
create "psychedelic" experiences nor is meditation meant to create some
undefined strange mystical experience.  The practice of meditation is very
well defined in Hinduism and the expectations from it are also well defined.
One cannot generalize anything regarding all sadhus as that would span
everything from murderous criminals hiding out from the police to real yogis
devoted to yoga practice.  Yogis are not after "some" psychadelic experience
caused by drugs.  Ideally they want to be able to increase the energy in
their body, and eventually manage to circulate it with mental intent.  From
my personal experience I can say that it is indeed quite possible, but
requires a good deal of awareness to be intact for controlling the
circulation of the energy.

But just to clear up the issue of using herbs, certain herbs are used as
inhalation for general health and is a common feature of both Hindu worship
and Ayurveda.  There are other herbs which are used to make meditation
easier.  They don't CREATE experiences.  They help the meditation by acting
as a mild sedative thereby enhancing the relaxation of the body.  Certain
herbs have been identified by yogis as causing relaxation without losing
awareness and those are the most valuable for yogis.  And those don't have
to be "smoked" literally, they can and are also used as part of herbal
incense.  It is not for nothing that different incense is used by Buddhists
during initiation rites into tantra practice.  In short, the yogi would want
relaxation without losing awareness as the ideal effect of any herb.

Though the poster didn't imply it, I wanted to bring up another point
anyway.  The term "psychedelic" used with yoga disturbs me a little due to
some other opinions I've read associated with yoga.  Just to set some other
mistaken notions straight:
1) Yoga is not intended to create "psychadelic" experiences which implies
randomness, it
     requires the practitioner to be able to recreate the advanced states.
2) Mandalas are not intended to be stared at until the "psychadelic" colors
turn the light fantastic.
    Buddhist mandalas are nothing but Hindu yantras.  And just as a side
note, it is disrespectful to
    use them as ordinary artwork on coffee coasters etc. as I've seen them
on.  Such an action is
   proof that the owner doesn't have a clue as to their real significance
and so has no idea why the
   image deserves respect and reverence.
3) Herbs are not taken to induce random "psychadelic" experiences in yoga.
4) If a yogi who is capable of circulating energy, a minor feat by yoga
    suddenly had a strange psychadelic experience, he would worry that he
may have
    led the energy along some wrong pathway.  It would be cause for some
5) Not all sadhus are real yogis, some are young men attempting to escape
from their
    domestic life, and some others even from the police.
6) Yoga is not a separate discipline from the Hindu religion.
    Shiva, the deity of yoga was always  part of the Hindu religion, though
his status varied
   considerably.  In the end yoga, vastushashtra, ayurveda, astrology and
Hindu worship rituals
   involving tantras, mantras, and yantras are closely related and fully
integrated due to close
   interactions between the various schools.  A devout Hindu cannot
accurately even do the most
   basic "sandhya" without doing yoga first.  And the full Sanskrit of the
sandhya he chants verily
  includes yoga chakras.  The chakras themselves are associated with
planets.  His actions in the
  rituals make use of everything from the understanding of the planets to
the Earth's magnetic flux
  to the effects of a "planet or heavenly body" as the Sun on the pores of
the skin.  None of this is
  my claim, it is so stated if you know where to look.

......if we take your definition of psychedelic(dreaming up wild imagery,
hallucinations etc), the definition is too
general.  What can't be termed "mind expanding!"  Yoga I'm afraid is a bit
more specific than that.  It is most concerned with "shodhana" or
purification which is not be interpreted in the Vaishnava sense of
cleanliness and goodness.
......You will notice that they(taxi drivers) do not install it(yantras,mandalas( on the floor of their cab and do pay reverence to the religious articles.  Hinduism not only allows religion
in material matters but some aspects of it are verily designed to obtain
very material goals.  The reason for the reverence for religious articles
isn't to restrict someone's freedom, it is to make visible that something
has special significance, that it is not ordinary, that it has greater
knowledge associated with it.  Thus religious articles are revered and are
accorded respect.
......Your definitions (of psychedelic) are too loose and leave too much room for interpretation.
Let me be more specific.  Ascetic or yogic practices place stress on the
physical body, the process of purification takes its toll.  Herbs can be
used to aid the health of the physical body to enable it to rejuvenate
itself.  One aspect of that rejuvenation is to induce relaxation, this is
not simply a mental thing, it enables the rejuvenation of the nervous
......"fakirs" typically belong to the sufi tradition which is more common in
the Islamic world.  Yogis are not necessarily beggars, some may beg, others
may not.  The term sanyasin or sadhu is typically applied to someone who has
left his family behind in a religious quest.  That doesn't have to be yoga
practice, it may just be devotional service or even visiting holy sites.
Such people typically rely on the local populace to support them during
their travels.
.....There are two kinds of people in any society, traditional and
non-traditional.  Some deities belong to the traditional folds of Hinduism,
others belong to non-traditional folds of Hinduism.  What unites the two is
their constant interaction and exchange.  For example, certain deities of
shakti are depicted as nude in cemeteries and others are depicted quite
clothed and proper.  The difference arose from the founders of the deities
being either traditional or rebellious.  The rishi Bhairava for example was
extremely non-traditional, the type who wouldn't think twice about even
killing a Brahmin belonging to the Shaivite tradition responsible for
starting the revolution of Kali (later many other shakti deities arise but
even Durga relies on Kali to defend herself giving her a special place in
the Shakti pantheon).  So you may get the impression that the Vaishnava
school is free from his influence, but you would be wrong.  He is mentioned
in most of the religious procedures of Hinduism, some of which you would
deem as quite Vaishnava.
It is not the case that Vaishnavas or Shaivites have come to different
conclusions in Hinduism.  There differences of knowledge have certainly been
hammered out, only their traditions are somewhat different.  For example, in
the last stages of the evolution of Hinduism, you see Durga being given the
Shaktis of all the various deities who willingly confer upon her their
powers creating a host of female deities.  You do not see Vishnu saying I
will not give my power to Durga because she is a form of Parvati or Indra
saying that I do not recognize this Durga character.The fighting with new Asuras is a constant theme in Hinduism, always new
challenges for the existing deities, with all accepted deities forming an
alliance to challenge the new upstarts.  Hinduism has always been divided
along the accepted beliefs and the newer questioned beliefs, that is what
separated the Devas and Asuras with some fights where the Devas want to
adopt the ideas of some Asuras and ask their supporters to bring some Asura
to their side!But in conclusion, every deity that you see today, from the gentle Laxmi to
the ferocious Kali has been ACCEPTED into the Hindu pantheon quite formally
during some very large discussions.  Durga herself projects out of herself
all the Shaktis which comprises the entire Vaishnava and Shaivite spectrum.
She was created when the various Devas knew that they couldn't take on the
new Asuras individually. Traditions may be different, but the deities are the SAME!  Yoga by itself
is actually singular.  Hatha yoga has the same chakras as any other yoga.
The solar and lunar is discussed everywhere, as is fire all the way from the
texts of Hatha to Brhadranyaka Upanisad!  Once you put it all together you
will realize why the chakras are even mentioned in the most basic of Hindu
worship rituals.  The end goal is purification of the body.  If three people
write a book on the same subject, the books will all be different, one
author will offer greater insight into one subject another would on another,
but the subject  remains the same.  How many books on history discussing the
same topics are the same ? Tantric/Kundalini/Shakti/Hatha oriented yoga is basically called Hinduism.
Due to its vastness people presume that Hinduism was never organized
successfully, but it was.  The mantras of yoga are derived from the Hindu
Brahmana expressed as "sabda" and they are consistent with the mantras used
in Hindu rituals.  The principles of the Hindu Brahman applied to the body
results in Ayurveda, applied to sound results in the Sanskrit alphabet, and
applied to astrology results in Jyotisha.  The description of the human body
of the yogis is the same as that used in Ayurveda.  When you study them in
depth, you will be surprised by the consistency.  The rise of the Shakti
cult in the end should not be seen as the fall of the other deities, it
should be seen as the final integration of all the accepted deities.
Because that is what happens at the end of every fight between the Devas and
the Asuras, everyone knows their proper place.

Just to bring up some other commonly mistaken notions in western society
regarding Hinduism:

1) Tantra does not imply sex, it means a particular method and is generally
applicable to
    anything where a systematic procedure needs to be laid down.

2) Tantric rituals are not different from Hindu rituals.  Hinduism has
accepted the notions of Shakti long ago as far back as the times of
Vishwamitra when the Gayatri was composed.  The Gayatri itself is intended
to develop internal energy within the human being and over a long period of
time (about 17 years) is supposed to give success and in about 24 years
various siddhis.  So the current daily rituals of Hinduism FULLY INCORPORATE
the conclusions of the Shakti cults which at one time arose challenging the
then conventional thinking.

3) Shakti vs. Vaishnava is not a matter of racial differences.  Many of the
Shakti proponents including Bhairava of the deity of Kali were Kshatriyas.
It had nothing to do with any Aryan/Dravidian divide imagined by people,
though there was definitely a divide between concepts espoused by Brahmins
and Kshatriyas due to personality differences.  The ferocious natures and
non-traditional appearances and modes of worship of some deities probably
had more to do with the personality of the rishi associated with the deity
and the mere mention of the kshatriya Bhairava still invokes fear amongst
the traditional Hindus.  And though all deities have priests associated with
them most Brahmins still find themselves attracted to Vishnu and the gentler
deities of Laxmi and Saraswati while deeming other Shaivite deities as
"tamasic,"  most of the populous agrarian societies descended from various
kshatriya castes still hold the maternal female Shakti deities in the
highest regard even in their most ferocious animal-sacrificing forms.

4) The concept of Shakti did not originate after Buddhism.  As I've said
before, the legends of Durga seem to predate the birth of Buddha by a very
long timespan.  And yet, within the more recent works of the Shakti cults in
some tantra texts mentions are made to Mahachina.  But by the time most such
texts were formalized Tibet would have already received the tantric forms of
Buddhism from the north-eastern region where a good deal of the Shakti
tradition originated.  Tibetan Buddhism has its roots in the north-east from
where many Buddhist scholars fled during the periodic attacks of the Huns
and the Sakas.  And as Buddhism itself developed in this region, the deities
of Shakti entered the folds of Buddhism as scholars freely intermixed the
two religions.  So there is plenty of scope for regions associated with
China to have received the lore of the Shakti cult before such texts were

Welcome to Karachi is offensive in too many ways

I recently had the misfortune of sitting through the "comedy" film called Welcome 2(?) Karachi whose "plot" can be summarized as follows- two Indian misfits and simpleton end up in Pakistan where they end up with the Taliban and hounded by the CIA because they mistake them for the Taliban. They make their escape only to be detained by Pakistani authorities but a good natured and beautiful ISI agent(?!!) ensures their release all the while foiling a terrorist plot by the Taliban. All the while feted by both India and Pakistan.

Firstly the movie is not very funny even as it is supposed to be a slapstick sort of comedy. The actors are talented but there is only so much they can do with such an ill conceived and semi literate script.
However the movies contains a great deal of post colonial tropes and memes and pretty little lies that modern day Indians are particularly attached to.

Firstly let us examine the treatment of Americans and their mission in Afghanistan and the tribal lands of Pakistan. Ill conceived as it may be , it is highly unlikely the CIA station chief would be cackling like the Joker in Batman as he watches drones pulverize their victims. The CIA like any other intelligence agency recruits only sober ,analytical and somewhat cold blooded individuals for such positions and not those who are near orgasmic as they watch their enemies get obliterated. Furthermore drone operators are stationed in Nevada or Florida and not anywhere near the kill zones.

Soon enough they are apprehended by the CIA. This gives the film makers the opportunity to introduce more ill informed racial politics- It is noble black operative who sees the injustice of it all and commits a court martial worthy offense by freeing them. I don't know in what world these Bollywood dopes are living in. Indeed black servicemen in the U.S armed forces would be the first to find such a scene offensive. And anyone who believes that African Americans are less racist than their white counterparts is living in a parallel universe. Survey after survey shows that blacks in America are the most opposed to immigration-both legal and illegal and are incredibly hostile to Asian and Indian Americans in particular. The dim witted Indian Americans thought they would placate blacks and show off their liberal credentials by voting for Obama in record numbers. Obama may have a soft corner for Indian Americans as he named nominated Indian Americans to the position of CTO, Surgeon General as well as a top prosecuting attorney for the highly prized Manhattan district.
Also not too many Indians or Indian Americans are losing sleep over the drone attacks in Pakistan. Well one guy is, but why care about the opinions of unstable cranks?

OTOH it was the same Obama who during the 2007 primary challenge chided Hilary Clinton as a representative for Punjab due to her support for outsourcing. Also he used Preet Bharara as both - his attack dog and shield as he prosecuted mostly Indians such as Rajat Gupta, Anil Kumar and Raj Rajaratnam (An SL Tamil billionaire but was with the in crowd of Indian Americans) for relatively trivial offenses  as "insider trading" even as the economy was torn apart from far graver acts of malfeasance by those in Goldman Sachs, Merrill Lynch and financial entities close to the administration.

Let us not forget the Devyani Khobragade episode. How often are ambassadors from friendly countries jailed and stripped searched even for serious allegations, forget dubious ones?

All of this doesn't matter to our dim witted film makers who have been trotted out the tired old Magic Negro/ Indian as savior from white bigotry at least since the incredibly ridiculous and offensive feature My Name Is Khan. This odious film even embarrassingly features an actor playing the current U.S President assuring the titular character that "your name is Khan and you are not a terrorist" right after Khan saves some black lives in the aftermath of a hurricane(a reference to hurricane Katrina where many blacks did die not due to the indifference of the Bush administration but the corruption and incompetence of the mostly black New Orleans city officials.) Bizarrely that movie also features a cringe worthy sub plot where a random white guy keeps taunting a Pakistan immigrant as "hey you fucking Paki" every day in New York City. Apparently none of these geniuses who made the film every spent any time in New York City which is famous for its deranged transients and homeless cranks of all races who pester pedestrians with all sorts of nonsense. One such individual tormented my sisters college friend because in the words of this learned man- chicken tikka masala helped start the French Revolution! And since she is Indian, she is surely responsible! Speaking of Pakis and cranks....

W2K also features a lithesome ISI agent played by Lori Gottlieb who is unconvinced that these two neer do wells captured by Pakistanis are Indian agents and convinced the good natured Pakistani government to free them and are eventually embraced by the hearty Pakistani people This again functions to serve two more lame Bollywood messages

a) Foreign women or women in general are naturally inclined towards compassion  and possess the right insticts in dealing with Indians

b) Most Pakistanis are basically good

First lets deal with a). The literary device of foreign females falling in love with native men is really a symbolic victory and conquest over the enemy or occupying force.
In Bollywood , the frankly silly film Lagaan popularized this notion but it has older roots. Shyam Benegal ,if anything was consistent in making awful and politically correct films. In his time honored tradition of glorifying Muslims he portrayed a British woman falling in love with her Pushtun abductor in Junoon. Other movies from Mangal Pandey to Rang Bansanti and Pazhassi Raja all portray British women as enlightened anti imperialists which was either a cause or consequence of them falling in love with an Indian man usually a freedom fighter. This has very little to do with historical reality(apart from the frankly half mad Annie Besant who wasn't even British but Irish) but more to do with the Indian screenwriter's fling with some liberal white girl either in India or in his studies abroad in U.S or UK

The film maker simply transposed post colonial political correct talking points of college age 90s Western women onto the unwieldy mouths of Victorian era characters. British women couldn't give two hoots about the condition of Indian men or women as long as they were benefiting from it materially.

Here they scored a twofer by getting Lauren Gottlieb to portray the ISI agent. A western actress playing a member of the dreaded intelligence bureau of an enemy nation.

                                                          Average ISI agent

And since when are Pakistani women known for compassion towards India? During the atrocities against Bangladeshi women (both Hindus and Muslims) by the mostly Punjabi dominated Pakistani army , Pakistani women were asked as to how they felt that their men were raping who at the time were technically their fellow citizens. To which they replied- at least the issue of the rape would be better looking(due to Punjabi genes)

This is the reality of women (and men). What the limp wristed omega male writers and directors who pedestalize women don't realize is that compassion and sympathy are limited in both women and men and hence they prioritize these attributes for those closest to them. Women in general are keepers of the hearth and in most societies including India were fierce defenders of their homes and would goad their men into offensive wars against the enemy. As an example, Arjuna wasn't able to face Ahhimanyu's mother until he had avenged his death. All the while dealing with Draupadi and her separate vendettas which they had to fulfill. These women are not considered freaks but worthy of our admiration. And why not? Women are instrumental in giving men purpose and resolve be it in day to day humdrum existence or life and death matters on the battlefield. Let us honor them for their support ,motivation and perspective but let us not lose sight of the flip side of this nature and let their pleasing appearance fool us into thinking they are sugar and spice and everything nice.

It was after taking this account, Savarkar bewailed the restraint of Hindu troops when it came to raping Muslim women. He believed that such counter atrocities would quickly demoralized the enemy and compel them to respect their new Hindu overlords. He went as far to claim that the honor of violated Hindu women would be healed if Muslim women suffered the same fate. And who knows he could be right. Revenge is a dish best served cold, schadenfreud and all that.
A Savarkar associate; Nathuram Godse was quite popular with refugee Punjabi and Sindhi Hindu women who suffered various indignities at the hands of Muslims and held Gandhi squarely responsible for their traumas

Now on to b)
Finally the delusion that Pakistanis want peace just as Indians do. I have doubt as the self delusions of Indians especially the dhimmified Punjabi film makers who populate the Mumbai film industry. Of course in their case deeper cultural factors maybe at factor such as Punjabiyat- the pan Punjabi culture,customs,cuisine ,language and clothing which dominate the popular cultures of both countries and the crank notion of martial races which hold the "poorbiyas" and southerners in contempt due to a thoroughly ignorant and skewed reading of Indian history. Before the Sikhs, the last Punjabi to win any battles was probably Harshvardhana who was a Jat from Haryana, Haryanvis(basically an poorbiya people "stuck" in the northwest) would take offense to being lumped in with Punjabis but lets be a  bit generous. Punjabis strike me as the type of people who simply go with the flow. Right now the winds (as of yet) blow towards secularism and Muslim appeasement and if Punjabiyat demands that it be so they placate it . Sikhism is an exception in Punjabi history than the rule (and it was really militarized in Bihar by Guru Gobind Singh). Now they are a defanged and toothless group, first used up and spit out by the British and then Indira Gandhi provided the finishing touches the destruction of their glory.

All in all the Indian populace has to suffer the Punjabi complexes and dysfunctions due to their control over this very powerful medium. Therefore I say to  those who blame the pro Islamic bias of Bollywood on some Muslim mafia(which is more interested in profit than furthering an ideological agenda) that they are missing the forest for the trees

Now you may that this Rao is being a tad cruel- picking on a silly movie like Welcome 2(?) Karachi which is the desi equivalent of other esteemed fare such as Dude Where's My Car? Well I say to you seeing how this highly objectionable feature manages to combine all the misinformed history, illiterate geopolitics, coarse and dangerous sentimentalism and vulgar self flattery into one revolting package, all Bollywood movies dealing with any foreign policy differ from this film only by a matter of degree , not content.

We make silly movies because we are a silly people. Punjabi or otherwise. Unless we wake up we deserve to find out what the world is really like -the hard way.

Tuesday, June 9, 2015

Mr Sabhlok, It is not I who is superficial and engages in shoddy research

Mr. Sanjeev Sabhlok while admirable in his quest for good governance and economic policy for India is rather lacking in knowledge of Indian history and religion. And what is worse he is unwilling to entertain counter arguments.

Recently he caught the Aryan Invasion Theory bug and a derivative of the same is the notion that Indian was routinely defeated due to its lack of a good cavalry.

I retorted here

As you can see, he might as well be completely oblivious of my post. He just goes and repeats the same talking points even if I had refuted his argument.

And when I went and criticized his views on AIT somehow he turned me into Hindutvadi even as I criticized Hindutvadis more than once on his forum, not to mention here as well!

And then he complains about "personal attacks" I made about him!

The "personal attack" he keeps whining about ,which him being so thin skinned he didn't even publish, was something along  the lines of me pointing out his hypocrisy of being for free speech while running a strictly moderated blog. Also I mentioned out the Hindutvadis are more fools than demons and India does not require his exorcism services for the same.

Earlier when I asked him if mining for tonnes of untapped gold in India would be a good idea(as per his recommendation), he promptly exited the discussion saying he was too busy.

In an earlier post I maintained that Vedic religion wasn't necessarily hostile to idol worship(his position) all the while showing that the legends and customs of the Vedic people to prove my point, he simply kept repeating his points like a parrot and asked me how I could dare to contradict Dayananda Saraswati. Amazing that he would quote Hindutvadi extra ordinaire Saraswati who believed that all Muslims and Christians should either undergo shuddhi or be evicted from India!
SO Sabhlok's MO is to quote a Hindutvadi to substantiate his position all the while bashing each and every Hindutva figure and belief because it goes against his vision of India!

Mr Sabhlok keeps being mystified as to why his political party never seems to come to fruition. Regrettably it appears that the captain and Mr. Sabhlok are the different sides of the same coin of Indian nationalism. Each intolerant of countering beliefs ,misrepresenting their opponents positions due to them misunderstanding or otherwise and being thoroughly uninterested in debate or discussion

At this rate, Mr. Sabhlok will be relegated to the status of Ralph Nader of Indian politics-if he is lucky! Atleast unlike Mr. Sabhlok, Ralph Nader lives in the country where he has formed a party!