Ajit Vadakayil: What is he?
I had promised one of my commenters truthsayer that I would do another write up on Ajit Vadakayil on occasion of his arrest for libel of Bollywood actor Aamir Khan. Work matters however prevented me from concentrating on my blog and while I could whip up something about our dear captain, it didn't feel right. Skewering and fisking other bloggers ,especially easy target such as Layla Anwar and Ajit Vadakayil just seems like cheating if I don't post other content rich posts. It is like reaching for dessert without finishing my broccoli. Feels like instant gratification -a symptom of indiscipline. So I first bit the bullet and finished two essays which to my mind are always a work in progress so forgive me on that regard. So on to Capt Vadakayil
What was most interesting to us is that the Captain was arrested in Manipal NOT his beloved Kerala, lands of gods,kings, sages with 12 strand DNA ,land of incomparable beauty and so on. Now indeed Kerala is nice but I am told Manipal is also pleasant with superior infrastructure and proximity to major urban centres and the conveniences they entail which are thoroughly lacking in Kerala.
Is it any surprise that our dear captain is a hypocrite? After he sent his son to study in the wicked Cornell University founded by wicked Rothschild money. The reasoning being that masters degree in Indian institutions have been contaminated by the idiocy of lower castes! So much for intra Hindu solidarity!
Hypocrisy is what defines Vadakayil.
He himself relishes meat and seafood but insists ancient Indians were vegetarians.
He claimed to be a Gandhian and in the same breath would beat up anyone who criticized Gandhi. Then as now the irony was lost on him. Of course this was before he "discovered" that the South African trained lawyer was a brainwashed Rothschild agent.
He hints and winks at his escapades as a sailor with white women but counsels youth to stay away from them. He went so far as to claim that the sexual positions in the Kama Sutra was a perverse ploy by the Victorian Richard Burton to make Hindus ashamed of their culture.
He himself is a heavy drinker all the while lambasting the very idea that ancient sages and kings such as Krishna and Agastya consumed liquor or soma as it was known. Once again blaming who? You guessed it- Rothschilds for injected such crude propaganda!
In other words he wants to gorge on animal flesh, drink like sailor and have sexual marathons with multiple women but he doesn't want YOU to because it is against Indian culture you see! But then again have you seen the posts and faces of his acolytes? It reminds one of the quip by Ronald Reagan when he saw a disheveled hippie with sign that said "Make love not war". Reagan noted "I don't think he is capable of either"
Jokes aside. I certainly do not recommend people to go to his site even for a casual browse. A rational, normal individual will feel ill after reading even a few paras of utter rage, hatred not to mention lack of basic historical knowledge or even common sense. If that alone doesn't deter you , well let me point you to a recent post about the river Ganga(I will not link it). Without any warning to viewer , he ambushes them with graphic images of decomposing corpses.
Such revolting images are not a one off event but his stock in trade. On another occasions he posted a corpse which was disinterred and laid on a lab table, disfigured,nude and bloated
Other images include close up images or intestinal and brain parasites. All of these WITHOUT WARNING THE VIEWER.
On other occasions gory depictions of victims in violence and war usually Palestinian and Germans in order to prove some crude anti Semitic viewpoint. Apparently Jewish or Israeli individuals are never are maimed or injured in his universe.
Then again you have graphic male and female nudity ,sometimes to titillate and other times to repel.
Despite his constant demonizing of whites you have him constantly putting up pictures of white women meditating in Kerala or Bali and wearing sarees. And he approves wholeheartedly of dimwit celebrities such as Julia Roberts embracing Hinduism as "proof" that the world is coming back to Hinduism
He makes predictions which are routinely wrong. The most infamous of which was Romney winning the 2012 since he was a Rothschild Zionist Bilderberg Group appointee. Unfortunately that didn't come to pass but the shameless captain refused to crow.
So Mr Rao, you have painted an unpleasant image and thereby answering the question - who is he? But that was not the subject of your blog post. The question was - what is he?
Thank you fictional person in my head for holding my feet to the fire.
To my mind Ajit Vadakayil a byproduct of Nehruvian/Gandhi era of socialist government, bloated public class, corporate cronyism, patriotism as secular collectivism and war as a means social control.
As to why he celebrates that era? He practically marinated in the public sector in his youth well unto his naval training and career and knows no other means of livelihood. So to his credit, he doesn't bite the hand that feed him. But then in his extreme short sightedness, he claims that those years with its oppressive state control and propaganda as entertainment(remember Doordarshan, dear god...) was heaven on earth. That he does not see the large scale suffering of lower and middle classes during that era is a symptom of his sociopathy. In a similar vein, he praised the Soviet Union by observing that the Russians were quite satisfied with their lot. It never occurred to this moral cretin that you have no choice but to be satisfied when you have just one option.
In the same vein he praises the internet which in his hands- and his hands alone mind you, will awaken the lumpen masses from their Zionist supplied opiates. It never occurs to him that if Indira Gandhi still held sway ,we would be lucky to have 56k dial up modems after perhaps a two year long waiting list. I remember during the lat 80s Rajiv Gandhi era, we got our rotary phone in one year and considered ourselves lucky!
But no point reminding him that the Nehruvian dynasty was a nest of incompetents and parasites. He also attributes the creation of the internet to hippies instead of the Department of Defense where the credit rightfully belongs. I am almost afraid to inform him of this as it may give him a heart attack.
As much as I hate to side with feminists on anything, he received a well deserving humiliation on his ridiculous posts on Karva Chauth and its effect on a woman's cycle on Indian feminist blogs
His puritanism, patriarchal views are more reminiscent of the Victorian era British than the ancient Hindus themselves but he refuses to believe this and has so internalized this thinking that he believes any erotic expression on part of Indians ancient or modern is a Rothschild sponsored forgery or Zionist psyops respectively.
Speaking of Zionists, his ignorance of Jewish history and dependence on neo Nazi sites combined with neo hippie views of Hinduism makes for a very frightful and bizarre nationalism where everything good in the world is due to Hinduism and everything bad due to Jews
He is painfully ignorant of Vedic Hindu culture and history. You know a guy has little knowledge of history when he habitually resorts to images created by the Hare Krishna society or comic book depictions of Rama and Parasurama with their exaggerated musculature.
He is by nature childish and petulant. Utterly oblivious to common sense and basic debate. When asked by one intrepid poster(his comments blog is heavily censored) as to why he believes the crazy things he does- he lashed out at him by stating his web stats and that many of them were foreigners. Surely he said they cant be wrong for patronizing his blog? So argumentum ad popularem is his excuse. By his own logic NDTV and FoxNews his arch nemesis should be right as they have more viewers than his blog. But if you pointed it out to him as I did, you are just a Zionist aka Christian convert (his words)
It doesn't occur to him that conversion to Christian doesn't make you a Zionist. Indeed unless you become evangelical or Catholic, it can often turn you into a vicious anti Semite. But informing the captain of that only proves you are indeed a hasbara.
He once objected to the claim that Telugu is 50% Sanskrit by pouting that it was likely a Telugu origin editor of Wikipedia who propagated this claim. While in reality the idea that Telugu is heavily Sanskrit based is obvious to anyone with more than a passing knowledge of Sanskrit and South Indian languages. Apparently he doesn't want Telugu to have such a high percentage as it would steal the thunder of another Sanskrit intensive language-Malayalam. His native tongue.
So there you have it. The captain is an unfortunate byproduct of the Nehru Gandhi era with all its favoritism for government and military personnel from which he benefitted immensely, pro Soviet foreign policy, anti Semitism, anti Americanism and strong state control of the economy. While the fellow travelers were usually a leftist lot , they also had a religious Hindus amongst espousing nonsensical Bhakti doctrine which was recycled by the Maharishi and Hare Krishnas and the resulting garbage found its way back into India.
If the captain really wanted to take on a section of elites for spreading garbage into Hinduism, he would take on bhakti which came about around the death of Harshvardhana and the rise of Scythians and Huns in Indian politics through the back door but he wouldn't do that.
Bhakti keeps you weak,pacific, vegetarian and stupid and that's exactly how the Captain likes you. That in a nutshell is Ajit Vadakayil.
What was most interesting to us is that the Captain was arrested in Manipal NOT his beloved Kerala, lands of gods,kings, sages with 12 strand DNA ,land of incomparable beauty and so on. Now indeed Kerala is nice but I am told Manipal is also pleasant with superior infrastructure and proximity to major urban centres and the conveniences they entail which are thoroughly lacking in Kerala.
Is it any surprise that our dear captain is a hypocrite? After he sent his son to study in the wicked Cornell University founded by wicked Rothschild money. The reasoning being that masters degree in Indian institutions have been contaminated by the idiocy of lower castes! So much for intra Hindu solidarity!
Hypocrisy is what defines Vadakayil.
He himself relishes meat and seafood but insists ancient Indians were vegetarians.
He claimed to be a Gandhian and in the same breath would beat up anyone who criticized Gandhi. Then as now the irony was lost on him. Of course this was before he "discovered" that the South African trained lawyer was a brainwashed Rothschild agent.
He hints and winks at his escapades as a sailor with white women but counsels youth to stay away from them. He went so far as to claim that the sexual positions in the Kama Sutra was a perverse ploy by the Victorian Richard Burton to make Hindus ashamed of their culture.
He himself is a heavy drinker all the while lambasting the very idea that ancient sages and kings such as Krishna and Agastya consumed liquor or soma as it was known. Once again blaming who? You guessed it- Rothschilds for injected such crude propaganda!
In other words he wants to gorge on animal flesh, drink like sailor and have sexual marathons with multiple women but he doesn't want YOU to because it is against Indian culture you see! But then again have you seen the posts and faces of his acolytes? It reminds one of the quip by Ronald Reagan when he saw a disheveled hippie with sign that said "Make love not war". Reagan noted "I don't think he is capable of either"
Jokes aside. I certainly do not recommend people to go to his site even for a casual browse. A rational, normal individual will feel ill after reading even a few paras of utter rage, hatred not to mention lack of basic historical knowledge or even common sense. If that alone doesn't deter you , well let me point you to a recent post about the river Ganga(I will not link it). Without any warning to viewer , he ambushes them with graphic images of decomposing corpses.
Such revolting images are not a one off event but his stock in trade. On another occasions he posted a corpse which was disinterred and laid on a lab table, disfigured,nude and bloated
Other images include close up images or intestinal and brain parasites. All of these WITHOUT WARNING THE VIEWER.
On other occasions gory depictions of victims in violence and war usually Palestinian and Germans in order to prove some crude anti Semitic viewpoint. Apparently Jewish or Israeli individuals are never are maimed or injured in his universe.
Then again you have graphic male and female nudity ,sometimes to titillate and other times to repel.
Despite his constant demonizing of whites you have him constantly putting up pictures of white women meditating in Kerala or Bali and wearing sarees. And he approves wholeheartedly of dimwit celebrities such as Julia Roberts embracing Hinduism as "proof" that the world is coming back to Hinduism
He makes predictions which are routinely wrong. The most infamous of which was Romney winning the 2012 since he was a Rothschild Zionist Bilderberg Group appointee. Unfortunately that didn't come to pass but the shameless captain refused to crow.
So Mr Rao, you have painted an unpleasant image and thereby answering the question - who is he? But that was not the subject of your blog post. The question was - what is he?
Thank you fictional person in my head for holding my feet to the fire.
To my mind Ajit Vadakayil a byproduct of Nehruvian/Gandhi era of socialist government, bloated public class, corporate cronyism, patriotism as secular collectivism and war as a means social control.
As to why he celebrates that era? He practically marinated in the public sector in his youth well unto his naval training and career and knows no other means of livelihood. So to his credit, he doesn't bite the hand that feed him. But then in his extreme short sightedness, he claims that those years with its oppressive state control and propaganda as entertainment(remember Doordarshan, dear god...) was heaven on earth. That he does not see the large scale suffering of lower and middle classes during that era is a symptom of his sociopathy. In a similar vein, he praised the Soviet Union by observing that the Russians were quite satisfied with their lot. It never occurred to this moral cretin that you have no choice but to be satisfied when you have just one option.
In the same vein he praises the internet which in his hands- and his hands alone mind you, will awaken the lumpen masses from their Zionist supplied opiates. It never occurs to him that if Indira Gandhi still held sway ,we would be lucky to have 56k dial up modems after perhaps a two year long waiting list. I remember during the lat 80s Rajiv Gandhi era, we got our rotary phone in one year and considered ourselves lucky!
But no point reminding him that the Nehruvian dynasty was a nest of incompetents and parasites. He also attributes the creation of the internet to hippies instead of the Department of Defense where the credit rightfully belongs. I am almost afraid to inform him of this as it may give him a heart attack.
As much as I hate to side with feminists on anything, he received a well deserving humiliation on his ridiculous posts on Karva Chauth and its effect on a woman's cycle on Indian feminist blogs
His puritanism, patriarchal views are more reminiscent of the Victorian era British than the ancient Hindus themselves but he refuses to believe this and has so internalized this thinking that he believes any erotic expression on part of Indians ancient or modern is a Rothschild sponsored forgery or Zionist psyops respectively.
Speaking of Zionists, his ignorance of Jewish history and dependence on neo Nazi sites combined with neo hippie views of Hinduism makes for a very frightful and bizarre nationalism where everything good in the world is due to Hinduism and everything bad due to Jews
He is painfully ignorant of Vedic Hindu culture and history. You know a guy has little knowledge of history when he habitually resorts to images created by the Hare Krishna society or comic book depictions of Rama and Parasurama with their exaggerated musculature.
He is by nature childish and petulant. Utterly oblivious to common sense and basic debate. When asked by one intrepid poster(his comments blog is heavily censored) as to why he believes the crazy things he does- he lashed out at him by stating his web stats and that many of them were foreigners. Surely he said they cant be wrong for patronizing his blog? So argumentum ad popularem is his excuse. By his own logic NDTV and FoxNews his arch nemesis should be right as they have more viewers than his blog. But if you pointed it out to him as I did, you are just a Zionist aka Christian convert (his words)
It doesn't occur to him that conversion to Christian doesn't make you a Zionist. Indeed unless you become evangelical or Catholic, it can often turn you into a vicious anti Semite. But informing the captain of that only proves you are indeed a hasbara.
He once objected to the claim that Telugu is 50% Sanskrit by pouting that it was likely a Telugu origin editor of Wikipedia who propagated this claim. While in reality the idea that Telugu is heavily Sanskrit based is obvious to anyone with more than a passing knowledge of Sanskrit and South Indian languages. Apparently he doesn't want Telugu to have such a high percentage as it would steal the thunder of another Sanskrit intensive language-Malayalam. His native tongue.
So there you have it. The captain is an unfortunate byproduct of the Nehru Gandhi era with all its favoritism for government and military personnel from which he benefitted immensely, pro Soviet foreign policy, anti Semitism, anti Americanism and strong state control of the economy. While the fellow travelers were usually a leftist lot , they also had a religious Hindus amongst espousing nonsensical Bhakti doctrine which was recycled by the Maharishi and Hare Krishnas and the resulting garbage found its way back into India.
If the captain really wanted to take on a section of elites for spreading garbage into Hinduism, he would take on bhakti which came about around the death of Harshvardhana and the rise of Scythians and Huns in Indian politics through the back door but he wouldn't do that.
Bhakti keeps you weak,pacific, vegetarian and stupid and that's exactly how the Captain likes you. That in a nutshell is Ajit Vadakayil.
Hi Ysv_Rao,
ReplyDeleteBhakti can make you pacific,vegetarian but can not make you stupid unless you are a blind believer. By the way could you please clarify what kind of Bhakti movement started after the death of Harshvardhana and the rise of Scythians and Huns in Indian politics? What kind "nonsensical Bhakti doctrine" you are trying to prove as garbage? Are you by any chance a christian convert who happened to be some kind of non-Zionist-pro-Semite? Richard Burton - a man who was accused of plagiarism and highly pornographic content in his books and not to mention the distortions he made in Arabian Night stories.And yet you seem to trust this man more than your own ancient noble maharshi Vatsa. Do you agree with Burton's version of Kamasutra?
Regards
Idlebrain, I must say you are aptly named because it seems one every who is a fan of Vadakayil, their brain is on autopilot.
DeleteHarshavardha was killed by a confederacy of Huns after he had defeated them in battle. Now these Huns started masquerading as Hindus and gave rise to the Rajputs and Gurjara Pratiharas as well as Chalukyas and the tradition of debates and yagnas declined and mindless chanting and "I love you , you love me" philosophy started.
Is it so impossible that we would compose a book consisting of erotic couplings. Perish the thought! Im sorry I retract. Indians were so pure, we are not interested in sex at all. We procreated by chanting OM and passing energy through the spouses fingers. All this sex nonsense was introduced by the Rothschild British to spoil our good name!
Thanks for stopping by.
Hi,
DeleteIs it so impossible that a man of 'glorious' character Burton who was accused of plagiarism and distorting the original texts in his translations could re-write Kamasutra in order to suit his perverted views? Perish the thought! You seem to have soft corner for him.You also seem to have this tendency to brand anyone writes against you as Captain's followers.
Mind your language.
Idlebrain It is obvious arguing with you is like trying to teach a goat Quantum physics. Shaivite texts especially are full of sexual imagery which are actually symbolic of philosophical ideas. We werent as prudish about it as today. If you cant understand that, just go back to masturbating over the topless selfies of your beloved captain
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ReplyDeleteOh Thank you! And now that crackpot kinda makes sense but not really!
ReplyDeleteHe posts pictures of Calicut while he is holed in Manipal, wah Ustaad wahh, meanwhile the idiots who throng his site and call him guruji are combing the streets of Calicut to get a "Darshan"
you know the hypocrisy of his actions are so off the deep end that it is actually mildly amusing.
Mind you his wife sifted through thousands of horoscopes to find a suitable bride for his older son. He who works for a moth eaten, homesexual @ EPIC systems (The dimwit Captain's words not mine).
And to all the morons who throng his site like the ones who populate the communes of Jim jones and such...your leader is F ***ing, Flawed, fat, Phony.
Yep JUST PUNCH into google. LOL
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DeleteAshneel and Sugumar, if you would send me your bank details, I will raise funds that you two get a vasectomy. Because it is criminal and irresponsible for such stupidity to propagate. Now I realize that the captain followers are a flop with women but still why take the risk?
DeleteHe is an idiot......once he said that all ivy league unvi are runned by so called R agents .....,then he says his own son went to some us unvi which is so called rothschild controlled.......he says he sent him there as that unvi has most nobel prize winners ......,lol in many of his posts he has said that even nobel prizes hav been controlled by rothschild .....lmao such a hypocrite
ReplyDeleteFor him all the good muslims and xtians r in kerala rest all of em r not good ppl .......every event in the world history according has something or the other to do with kerala ......lol .......rest all places in india hav no importance .......he once said even ashoka dindt exist what nonsence !!!!
ReplyDeleteWell atleast he didnt claim Ashoka wasnt from Kerala LOL.
DeleteOh its more than every major development in civilization had something to do with Kerala. Heck everything good comes from kerala and everything bad comes from Jews. But then again he believes Jews come from Kerala too. Wonder how his head doesnt explode
You must be DUMB or you just don't know how to read English ...he has NEVER said Jews come from Kerala...what he did say in his post is JEWS WERE NEVER PERSECUTED IN INDIA, KERALA.....pat yoursrlf in the back of your head PLEASE
DeleteAshneel Kumar, do you even know how to read? Must you embarrass yourself. I know Captain followers aren't known for their dignity but come on!.....God however painful it is to read the captains blog, I have to do it for other sensible and more sensitive people not to mention humiliating you would be so delightful
DeleteHere
http://ajitvadakayil.blogspot.ae/2013/11/paradise-on-earth-kerala-land-steeped.html
Ctrl F for Jews or Judaism and you will find
Judaism was created by Namboodiris from Kerala. No wonder the Talmud has racism inherent in it. King David’s wife ( and Solomon’s mother ) was from Kerala.
David first fell in love with her when she was taking an open bath ( a married woman Bath Sheba ) , as is custom in Kerala.
Aristotle had written that Jews are from the Land of Kalari. King Solomon imported sandalwood to make his palace staircase and teak for his ships from Calicut.
/end quote
These idiotic,bigoted and unprovable claims aside, I would request that you crawl back to the intellectual sewer you came from
ysv_rao you are surely DUMB And have difficulty comprehending English literature... regarding the link you provided .....
Deletehttp://ajitvadakayil.blogspot.ae/2013/11/paradise-on-earth-kerala-land-steeped.html
..which was my first time reading, IT CLEARLY SAYS-- ....
..""""Judaism was created by Namboodiris from Kerala""""
IT DOESN'T SAY JUDAISM WAS CREATED IN KERALA...BUT "" BY NAMBOODIRIS "" FROM"" KERALA...as namboodiris WERE from Kerala ...
Please don't send any money I will have my children give you lessons on English literature and comprehensions..
I think you have proved yourself enough..
Ashneel, Im convinced more than ever Vadakayil supporters are not only cowardly and dishonorable but painfully stupid as well.
DeleteI dont want to address your thoroughly idiotic response as Im afraid you are the EBOLA of stupidity. It is thoroughly contagious. Do us a favor and lobotomize yourself. You can only get smarter. God knows you can get any stupider
Your children are not yours but you are cuckolded by the neighborhood one legged beggar as your wife finds him much more desirable than you. And who can blame her?
ysv_roa, You just expose yourself even more by the flawed types of remarks that has NO TRUTH ...
Deletegreat comeback Ashneel, remember gypsies are not of Indian origin but their ancestors came from India but they didnt. Hazaras are not of Mongol origin because there ancestors came from Mongolia but they didnt, Sri Lankan Tamils dont hail from Tamil Nadu because they are now in Sri Lanka
DeleteThat is Ashneel Logic for you
Now please go do a DNA test on your children so that you can hand them over to the beggar thereby saving you the cost of raising them
Regards
ysv rao, please take your meds and tell your warden not to let you use the computer without taking your medication at your place of stay, the Mental Asylum...
Deletei am not here to defend anyone, but there are many a things in his posts which sound logical and do make sense. However, i do not agree with many a things he writes. Dis agreeing with everything he writes, just bcz he links everything to kerala does not make sense either. A wise man would know how to pick the genuine information and dump the rest.
ReplyDeleteIf anything in his blog sounds "logical" and sensible to you, then you just lack common sense.
DeleteOnce again this idiot argument about take the good and leave out the bad. Please go back to kindergarten
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DeleteHi Rao,
ReplyDeleteHindu converted to secularist underwear, I am a die hard ajit fan, its ok If he is staying in manipal, all that he says has necome true, you ar one of those fools who will never see light of truth so no se talking about your stupid rants.
First of all Jayan Divakaran, I recommend you get a sex change, convert to Islam so that you have an excuse to wear a niqab as you have a face made for radio. If it was a building, in a more developed countries with zoning laws , it would be targeted for demolition for being an eyesore.
DeleteDespite belief to the contrary There is said to be positive correlation with looks and intelligence and seeing how you score low on both with your repugnant profile and your thoroughly idiotic comment(I am a secularist!!) I am ever more convinced that it may even be a causation!
Why is he staying in Manipal if he claims Kerala is the greatest place on earth?
Which of his prophecies have come true?
I await your wisdom/entertainment
Regards
Well Well,
DeleteYou are one of the powerless Dhimmies, who is barking on their asses cause of Modi fea, very soon many of you will fly out to America or saudi. You are a Pain man, i have faced many, many have known the true light of facts out from ignorance. Fools like you and your clan will keep sing praises of Gorra Gaands.
You say Ajit Vdakayil what is he
Y.S. Rao i akk you Relugu Fool WHO ARE YOU!!!
I am actually a Hindu, a much better Hindu than pussy hypocrite Vaishanava Vadakayil As for me, you know nothing and have encountered hardly anyone of substance. Most of Vadakayil supporters sit in a ciricle wanking each others genitals. You are incapable of independent thought.
DeleteAs for Goraa Gaands, please take it up with Vadakayil who was a merchant ship captain, If it wasnt for trading with goraa gaands, he would be selling peanuts in a railway station and his wife would be dancing nude in some brothel
I ask you Diwakaran, who is Diwakaran Jr.'s real father? Does your son suspiciously resemeble the milkman?
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Delete"We will be the last ones laughing" The captain isn't laughing when anyone criticizes him. When I mocked him on KE's blog, he bitched and whined on his blog about me for months. He went as far to edit his posts from years ago to iaddress me as a Zionist Christian convert(whatever that mans)
DeleteSo I will never be able to mock the truth. Wow that's deep man!
YSV I accuse of dismantling Capt by raking up ancient history :)
DeleteHi Jayan Divakaran,
ReplyDeleteI agree with you. I too follow captain's blogs. I read some of your blog posts also. Good work sir. Although many wild claims Captain makes,they do make sense. Ysv_rao comes across as some kind of downright racist (typical self loathing indian). I think he is settled in the UK and happy serving the white asses. Let him drown in his good for nothing EGO. He tries to prove himself a way above Captain. He even goes to the extent of abusing one's mother,wife to satisfy his ego.
Hello Rao, you may be a good , honourable and knowledgable person but the moment you abuse someone's mother it shows what kind of egoridden as@#le you are. Is this what your mother taught you?
Yeah...i'd like to see some of those 'logical' arguments.....if you are not that dumb.
Delete@Rahul .. What kind of logical arguments you would want to see ?
ReplyDelete@Enigma: The so called 'sensible' and 'logical' arguments made by ajit vadakayil
DeleteDont you have the brains to explore 'sensible' and 'logical' arguments. Why dont you explore yourself if u are not that dumb.I am not here to teach you everything that Captn says. You are just another Ysv_Rao who is pissed off with Captn. Rao says he is taking Indians to the task! LOL.
DeleteAll that he can do is abuse his commenters. He seems to have very good knowledge of feminine hygiene products,sperm count of others' mother/wife and he regularly keeps track of those who pound their vagina. He abuses as if he possesses some statistical data regarding real identity of one's father turning their mother/wife/sister into whores.
Read below what he wrote in reponse to my comment:
"Your whore mother lost count after her 1000th client in 2 months. BTW just because your siblings are of different fathers it doesnt mean you can fuck your half sister or sodomize your 9 year old brother.I believe you are confusing a posters board with your moms face as she is used pay men to do that to her."
Pan Conservatism,Traditionalism,Hindu Nationalism,Neo Paganism - My Ass.
Enigma, I was otherwise occupied with some family medical issues which required my travel and time away from work so I couldnt address the blog and the comments.
DeleteYou will notice I insulted you as a last resort. And again I have absolutely NO REGRETS for doing so because not only you are dishonest and stupid , you may also well be a follower of Vadakayil as one follows Satya/Shirdi Baba or any other fraud.
I gave NUMEROUS examples as to how Vadakayils views were hate filled, illogical and destructive but you paid no heed and asked me to focus on his stray positive contributions. That is like ignoring asking someone to ignore the claim that the Pacific Ocean is composed of water by pointing a few Polynesian and Hawaiian islands with in it.
People like you and this other idiot Jayan Divakaran. deserve this treatment only
@Enigma: Do you think I haven't searched that i'd be asking.? You think i'd believe in 12 stranded DNA? or absence of Global Warming? Or need I remind you that Ajit Vadakayil has a history of 'spreading misinformation with malicious intent' for which he was arrested .(Under IT act 2005).
ReplyDeleteSo again...please stay to the point and bring out ONE LOGICAL/SENSIBLE argument made by vadakayil.
And please stop dragging your personal brawls with the author in here ( as i am least interested in that)
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DeleteCongress conspiracy? hahaha you are a joke a minute. The IT act aside, neither the BJP nor Congress is a fan of free speech. I don't think the captain neither his followers are in a position to plead his case on the basis of free speech when they are the most totalitarian and intolerant bunch.
DeleteIdiot sugumar, address first the points in this post. I know you are a damn fool but even you know how to read.
@Iniyavel Sugumar: Give me the logic behind Absence of Global warming/ 12 stranded DNA.
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ReplyDeleteFor Example:
ReplyDeleteLunar and Menstrual Phase Locking (1980)
Journal: American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology
By Winnifred B. Cutler, Ph.D.
So if a White Man studies this phenomenon and publishes it, then all Mr. Pickle Johns will wag their tails.
Krishna Kumar, congratulations. I think you are the most idiotic Vadakayilite I have encountered so far.
DeleteHow exactly do you make this assumption that I will agree to this paper without even reading it?
And by the way it is not a "pickle john" but a "chutney mary". Winnifred is a female name. And either way it doesnt apply to her since she is not of Indian heritage. Jeez man, way to expose your own stupidity. You cant even get your insults right.
There may or may not an effect by the moon on the womans cycle. The evidence is just too shoddy. The sole reason it is associated with the moon is due to the waxing and waning correspond to the cycle rather the solar days obviously. And moon has feminine qualities as per Vedic and Western mythologies.
That is it
Any other "wisdom" you wish to impart?
@Krishna Kumar : I was waiting for this one :p. If you had done your homework well, you would not have linked it. For one..this is flawed data. You can find a full meta-analysis of all the published reports on this topic in this link (http://www.csicop.org/si/show/the_moon_was_full_and_nothing_happened/)
DeleteSecondly...latest results show contradictory findings( Zimecki M et al, 2006)
Yes, lunar cycle does have effect on humans and animals(called circadian rhythm) but menstrual cycle -> NO. So back up your claims with valid data
The most number of comments that you get is when you write something on Capt. Ajit Vadakayil. The rest of your blogs, no one gives a sh*t, cause anyone who reads your blog can instantly identify that its just rants of a young unsettled mind. you have a long way to go for your mind to become mature and think different.
ReplyDeleteNo wonder you depend upon Ajit Vadakayil for your readership..
Once again, give this advice to Vadakayil whose penchant for raking in blog hits by abusing well known figures landed him in jail.
DeleteI will say what I have to say, please note only two of my articles are about this idiot captain. Trust me I can make atleast 2 1000 word essays in response to each and every one of his idiot posts. But life is too short for concentrating solely on your devata!
I dont need lectures from a Vadakayil zombie on maturity and independent thought hahahahaha! Thank you for the joke!
dont fart .. you dumb moron.
Deleteyou are not even worth dirt under the fingernail of captain.
Mr. Rao, you fool..
Deletei wrote a sarcasmic word first to befit your style.
by any chance are you fan of YSR and party evangelist & corrupt gang ?
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DeleteThis seems to be trademark of the captains followers of telling other people what to do especially when it comes to their captain baba!
DeleteIf these "logical" and patriotic people are anything like you and other idiot followers, then I have nothing to fear.
Also please be advised threats of violence (fying alive) are illegal. If you do that again, I will ban you , a second time, I will personally track you down and give you a thrashing. The third time, I will just hand you over to the concerned authorities
When it comes to farting your captain is the expert. He has dedicated an entire post to it. I wonder if he is still a 9 year old at heart (not to mention height!)
Delete@truthunveiled LOL amazing thought process! So because we share two initials and are from Andhra, therefore I am a Christian terror agent. hahaha great induction there Sherlock. QED I suppose
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jab log aap ke baare me baat karne lage, samajh lena tarakki kar rahe ho.............
ReplyDeleteLOL True but "kiski tarraki"....who is gaining a stature? Is it me due to all the brickbats from these impotent Vadakayil supporters. Is it Vadakayil beacause of "log" pain in the asses like me. Or is it Vadakayil himself who adds more to the credit column of Aaamir Khan's fame?
DeleteLol......now vadakayil has started to threaten his own readers in his stupid blog......he wants all of his zombie followers to copy paste his dumb comments on modis social media websites .....he wont do that himself coz he knows he wud be jailed again for spreding such fake news around.......so he now wants em to spread his absurd views on social media so that he gets more zombies and they get areested for posting and not him !!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteLOLL I saw that and like a typical cult leader, once his followers gets arrested, he will say a few kind words and make some bombastic claim but when it comes to action he will be as quite as a kitten.
DeleteWhat frightens me really is the people come there asking him for medical advice and he freely dispenses it. Im sorry who made him a doctor? One dude went as far as to enquire whether he should vaccinate his son for pneumonia!
My god , he is the Jenny McCarthy of paranoid anti Semitic hyper patriot Indian bloggers
Hey Ysv, wanna famous by criticizing Captain? Dirt under fingernail!
ReplyDeleteThe captains blogs are indeed not even worth dirt under ones fingernail when it comes to bestowing knowledge and common sense.
DeleteYes Kkk.. I have seen Mr Vadakayil's instructions in his blog.I cannot blame Mr Vadakayil for writing these instructions in his own blog(its his blog),but what is
ReplyDeletepainful is that some readers are getting impressed by whatever he says.They do not feel the need to undertake a deeper study on his assumptions-like fake Kalidasa,fake Radha etc. and they are blindly copy-pasting these on other websites.I cannot understand how easily people can get impressed by a particular writing style.I do support and praise much of what Mr Vadakayil writes,but that does not mean I will have to surrender my own thinking and logic.For all blind Capt supporters,I must say that Mr Vadakayil writes many things on the basis of confirmation bias.Search for it in wikipedia and you will know what I am saying.Having said that, I must also mention that all what Capt writes is not wrong,but much needs to be filtered out.
Radha story is fake or edited, because it is not mentioned in Bhagavadam.. most comprehensive story of Krishna.
DeleteYou should do more research then you will be able to connect dots. that's how perception works.
Do you know that our original manuscripts are kept in London, Bazel, vatican museums . All stolen by the invaders !!
Do you know about Herman Gundert ?? Here you go.
http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Kochi/german-university-gifts-malayalam-the-legacy-of-herman-gundert/article5125550.ece
Grow up grow up !!
See I didnot want to take a stance on Radha.I just request the readers to verify whatever incredible things they hear.The point is that none of the ancient texts mention Radha,and you are absolutely right on this.What you mentioned about the replacement of original sanskrit documents is also true.This thing was pointed out way back in the 19th century by Bankim Chandra Chatterjee(author of our national anthem Vande Mataram).More than a character Radha is a concept,try to understand what I am saying.Radha is "Aaradhana" of Krishna in ultimate perfection.The concept of Radha was created in Bengal by the early Vaishnavas.This was because the original Vaishnava philosophy did not propagate free mixing of masculine and feminine genders in their sadhana.At that time Tantra Sadhana was popular in Bengal and Tantra sadhana allowed free mixing of the opposite sexes(not just for physical pleasure,but for sadhana and lifestyle also).So the Vaishnava philosophy in Bengal incorporated a less strict form with the Radha-Krishna pair.Radha is the concept which makes Krishna easily approachable to the vast majority of people.It is useless ranting on that Radha is a fake character,because Radha is more of a spiritual concept.Chaitanya Mahaprabhu and later Sri Ramakrishna had elaborately spoken about Radha in the highest spiritual realm.What they said was based on their experience in meditation.Radha shows you the way to approach Krishna easily through pure devotion.They didnot sexualise the Radha and Gopi characters.The problem is that mean minded Vaishnavas and medieval age poets have degraded the divinity and spirituality of Radha-Krishna pair to a form of earthly couple.Again for your information,I would like to say that many parts of the original Mahabharata,Ramayan,Srimad Bhagabhatam and all ancient
Deletesanskrit scriptures were added and some removed in the coming eras by many authors with their own selfish or noble intentions.That is the reason you will find many contradictory discourses in the present day ancient scriptures.Do not take these present day versions to be 100% accurate.Having said that,I still agree with your point that Radha didnot exist in the original scriptures.This are the quotes of Sri Ramakrishna on Radha :
"Even if it is agreed that Radha was not a historical personality and that the episode is imagined by some lover of God, why not fix your mind on the intense yearning of Radha and the Gopis for the Supreme? Why dwell on the expression? This may appear human to you, but the yearning and vision you must take as divine."
"Sri Krishna is the Purusha; Srimati is His Śakti, the Primal Power. The two are Purusha and Prakriti. What is the meaning of the Yugala Murti, the conjoined images of Radha and Krishna? It is that Purusha and Prakriti are not different; there is no difference between them. Purusha cannot exist without Prakriti, and Prakriti cannot exist without Purusha. If you mention the one, the other is understood. It is like fire and its power to burn; one cannot think of fire without its power to burn; again, one cannot think of fire's power to burn without fire. Therefore in the conjoined images of Radha and Krishna, Krishna's eyes are fixed on Radha and Radha's on Krishna. Radha's complexion is golden, like lightning; so Krishna wears yellow apparel. Krishna's complexion is blue, like a dark cloud; so Radha wears a blue dress; she has also decked herself with blue sapphires. Radha has tinkling anklets; so Krishna has them too. In other words, there is inner and outer harmony between Purusha and Prakriti."
You can shout on throughout your life that Radha is fake,but you need to realise the real philosophy behind Radha worship.My guess is that you will not be able to eliminate Radha by writing and commenting in blogs.You must understand that devotion doesnot care for all this intellectual stuff.And whatever you say please do not underestimate Sri Ramakrishna,he was one of the few liberated souls in our modern age.The only other person we know of was Maharshi Ramana,who attained full liberation.These are not my words but that of the Capt.
Delete@JAM,
Deleteappreciate your reply.
yes, we should definitely do our own research and find it out. Mr Vadakayil also says the same to do. He is not pushing to anybodys mouth.
I too dont believe everything what Captain says.
But people like ysv rao is not able to understand the wisdom and learning of his blogs. my response was mostly aimed at him.
Thanks for reading my comment patiently and replying truthunveiled2014.The stance you have taken on Capt is the exact one I also have.But Signor does not seem to understand what I am trying to say.Your comment will probably make him understand my disposition,as you are a different person with a more favourable view of Capt.I admire your openmindedness Truthunveiled2014.This quality is very rare in the net discussions.YSV is critical about Capt but he has raised some valid contradictions in this article which even the diehard Capt supporters and logical ones(like you and me) will find hard to defend :-)
DeleteFirst Jeck/Jam thank you for your rousing defense of me. I appreciate you being open minded despite admiring the captains work(though wisely with some caveats as you put it)
DeleteIm afraid you are talking to a stone wall vis a vis Vadakayil acolytes. For them I am the demon Kali(not to be confused with goddess Kaali) and the captain is Kalki. And he will wage war on me and my hasbara Zionist desh drohis haha
Regarding Radha, I really don't see it is such an issue. Is it because the sexual dalliance between Radha and Krishna bothers you or furthermore the fact that he was 10 and she about 24 as per folklore.Or the fact that she was his aunt(not blood related I believe).
DeleteEither fact doesn't bother me as Krishna was considered an upstart be it as fighter, political leader or as a lover.
His sexual activities or drinking bouts do not bother me in the least as he was a passionate Kshatriya and that's what he is supposed to be
Please note I acknowledge this Radha is not part of the official canon but later folklore. As popularized by the Gaudiya Vaishnavas and their devotionalism under Chaitanya Prabhu caught on with the rest of the subcontinent
I am just upset that we worship a disneyfied version of Krishna, we have the flirtation without the sexuality that followed, the warfare he waged without the brutal violence. His breaking of social norms while overlooking that he drank so heavily that Balarama was worried that Dwaraka's security would be jeopardized.
I will dedicate a separate post to this infantalization of Hinduism by the idiot captain and even more brain dead supporters
Welcome back YSV :-) Capt and his followers are making a wrong issue out of this.They have failed to understand the essence of Hinduism. I must reiterate that I am very much thankful to truthunveiled2014 for positively replying to my point.Most of the Capt supporters here are ranting and abusing without a single concrete point.Truthunveiled is an exception here.YSV by the way in your October 2013 Capt blog I have given some comments to your final answer there.I would appreciate your views on the issues we were talking there also.I really miss Mr.Eshan Bhardwaj in this debate :-) .A sane logical debate can be so interesting if you are ready to face the questions.
DeleteThanks JAM. Sorry I lost track due to the large number of comments. What particular post/topic did you have in mind from in the other comments board?
DeleteYSV Check your Ajit Vadakayil :Deranged Lunatic link(not this post) .In my last 3 comments in that post I replied to your October 17, 2014 1:40 AM comment.The first of the three comments I wrote was on October 17, 2014 at 6:05 AM.
Delete//Im afraid you are talking to a stone wall vis a vis Vadakayil acolytes. For them I am the demon Kali(not to be confused with goddess Kaali) and the captain is Kalki. And he will wage war on me and my hasbara Zionist desh drohis haha//
DeleteWhat a sarcasm, what kind of presumption... and overall lacks basic manners.
please be honest to your mind, when you argue a point, stick on to it and argue with substantiated evidence( if available).
Any argument, should be promoting to exhume truth. ( I know mr. adakayil doesn't have to time to argue with anyone. he doesn't make any money and works tirelessly to churn out his knowledge).
you are free to appreciate/criticise him. but calling him a crackpot means you have not read his blogs or you haven't thought about it.
And what you think.. who ever reads his blogs are his blind believers ??
there can be a few someone like that, but not everyone.
Are a good scholar to understand his knowledge ( quantum mechanics, human anatomy, history ..etc) ??
Remember, he had seen the world for 30 long years.. so you can expect him to be knowledgeable man.
See, there is nothing personal between you and anyone out there.
Let us substantiate any arguments with facts/evidence as much as possible. Aim is to find out truth and not to blame or ridicule anyone.
That is the spirit of debate !
Truthunveiled2014 what you are calling sarcasm and presumption by YSV ,actually does have some substance in it.As for the manners part,aren't you being a little biased against YSV :) ?Can you call Capt and most of his supporters apart from you completely well-mannered?In his blogpost YSV has raised some contradictory issues on Capt,which none of us has been able to counter with logic till now.These points have been derived from the Capt's own blog.The point YSV has tried to make to Capt followers is that Capt does not always walk the talk.I am a supporter of Capt on some issues as I have already mentioned.But Capt supporters,instead of arguing with logic and refuting YSV's claims,are ranting on that Capt is glorious ,YSv is Anti India etc .You alone among the Capt supporters have upholded the spirit of debate.Capt himself doesnot come into an open debate.He might get refuted badly.This is more so because he doesnot have a habit of taking cross-questions.Whatever you read in Capt blog and the comments section is completely uni-dimensional.This is the reason you will never see him in these open blogs.When YSV calls Capt crackpot he has his own reasons.Read his October 2013 blog and you will understand.In that blog,however,I have actually spoken for the Capt on many points I believe Capt is right(I have used another account JECK in that blog).But I didnot try to defend him on points I consider totally baseless.The logical bent of mind should never be sacrificed.
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ReplyDeleteSignor you and some other readers of this blog are claiming that YSV is using Capt to increase his fame.God has given all of us a brain to use.So I request you to use it before you comment.Do not repeat blindly whatever anyone says.If Ysv had a desire to become famous by blogging,he would have written atleast 10 blogs per month.He has wrtten only 8 blogs in 2014.So clearly he has not made blogging his career choice for fame :-) . Moreover he would have chosen spicy conspiracy theory topics instead of real historical and socio-political ones.Believe me it is not hard to hit fame in blogging if you can regularly dish out new issues of hidden conspiracy frequently .My observation is that most readers do not even care to check whether you are adding some extra colour on the subjects that ignite our imagination.We humans have a general tendency to focus our attention on anything that is not mundane.
ReplyDeleteHahaha! You got me there JAM. I have to admit I am a notoriously non prolific blogger ,something I have to fix. Anyway thank you for using that fact in my defense against these wild eyed captain followers ;-)
DeleteOh boy! Ysv does not want to be famous so that he wrote only 8 blogs! Not that nobody reads him! Fame should have been on him if he pens many blogs! How can one be so stupid! I believe you brother.
ReplyDeleteLogic and common sense aren't your fellow travelers are they?
DeleteSignor I am glad that you replied to my comment.but you probably did not read correctly what I wrote.I didnot say that YSV does not want to be famous.I pointed out with facts that he is not seeking fame through blogging atleast.Yous should not miss out the phrases in a sentence Signor :-).I also did not say that mere number of blogs will bring fame.I said that "spicy conspiracy theory topics instead of real historical and socio-political ones"(quoting the exact phrase I used earlier) draw audience on the net . You probably didnot read this line. If you tell about mere number of blogs also,even then it is a reality that a regular blogger draws more readers than an occassional blogger.8 blogs a year is nothing in the blog world.This fact should not be that hard to comprehend.It does not even require a high level of perception like what Capt and his readers have.The Capt has written more than 800 blogs till date,i.e, 160 blogs per year.Compare this to the meagre 8 of YSV :-) The name of Capt Vadakayil will atmost draw a hundred supporters and critics taken together.I think this blog didn't even draw the attention of 100 different persons till now.Instead this blog would have got many more readers by serving some hot conspiracy topics,and YSV is smart enough to understand this.So YSV is not devoted to a career in blogging,thats all I meant.YSV no offence to you,I have read some of your articles and I appreciate your candid writing style.Signor by the way just take this discussion casually,no need to hurl abuses and slangs when we do not even know each other :-) A healthy debate is a very interesting thing,provided we are ready to argue with logic.Signor Its a pleasure discussing with you .
ReplyDeleteDear Jam, it is great to know that you also think everyone has brain capable of thinking like Ysv. As far as I am concerned for the first time I hear about Captain was through newspapers when he was arrested. Thereafter within a shlrt period I have read many of his blogs and convinced that he is so special. His followers arenot limited as you want to project. His blog against Ameer became so popular and viral that Ameer had no option but to file complaint. Captain has deep knowledge about the subjects he pens. 100 Ysv are not equal to even a single blog of CAPTAIN. Read his introduction and then apply your mind on the subject he pens, you will feel the greatness. Then Ysv will be a BIG ZERO. I dont need to discuss the matter with you because you do have the option of free thinking. Reach at your own conclusion. LOVE brother. By the way I am not the person who writes articles. You are mistaken.
ReplyDeleteWhen you say a 100 YSV blogs aren't equal to one captain blog, I actually take that as a compliment. Im sure that means all the inaccuracies, bigotry, insanity and hatred in one of the captains blog cannot be spread out in even more than a 100 of my blog posts.
DeleteOn this we are in agreement!
YSV you are in a jovial mood today :-D Signor I can challenge you if YSV really starts writing on the topics Capt has written,then Capt will lose his blogging job :) . I have circumstantial evidence of my claim from this very blog.So many pro-Capt comments and yet not a single defence in sight :) YSV you have a good writing style,I must admit.
DeleteSignor I have been following Capt's blogs for more than a year.All of us do have the brains, I only requested the blind Capt supporters to use them .But I must mention that you do not seem to be a blind fan of Capt.In another one of my comments in this post I have praised Capt for writing many good things.So I am not actually blind either for the Capt or against him.But the Capt has written blogs on some topics in which I have some amount of knowledge and understanding.It is after reading and analysing those blogs that I have come to realise that you need to filter out much of what the Capt says.DO not take everything he says passionately.He is outright wrong in many cases.Capt might have deep knowledge in some areas but most of what he writes is already on the net(Do not take this as an offence to the Capt).Capt is more of a modified conspiracy blogger.You will understand what I am saying if you visit some good conspiracy blogs.I have never tried to project that Capt has limited followers.WHat I said was that YSV cannot even draw a 100 readers by taking Capt's name,as is evident from the dismal number of comments on this post,and YSV understands this very well.I am again repeating myself,YSV can become a famous blogger by running a pseudo-scientific and metaphysical consiracy blog on a regular basis.Its useless and lame pitting YSV against Captain,because academic blogs like this one never draws casual netizens.You must serve hot Illuminati dishes for that :-) You will understand this if you see the technical blogs of Capt in 2009 and 2010.Those blogs had very few or in some cases no comments from any reader.So does that make Capt a useless blogger?Will you judge Capt solely by the number of readers he is getting.Then you will have to agree that Capt was actually a crap way back in 2009 :-).But that should not be a criterion of judging anyone,either Capt or YSV or any other blogger.Now I think I have clarified my stance to you Signor.You can argue with YSV logically by taking the subpoints he has made on Capt.Ysv wrote another blog on Capt in 2013.There I have actually tried to support Capt (my account name was JECK in that blog) logically in the points I believe he is true.You can also do that.
ReplyDeleteJAM, I do know that informatons are there scattered in the net. But the most important thing is that I can now come into a conclusion after reading Captain. Now I know the type, nature, size etc... of the enemies of this great nation and culture. Now I am with clear mind. I mean black and white.Let me go this way. Thank you.
ReplyDeletesignor, you don't know shit. If you think America and Israel are our enemies then god help you. Rothschild may have been very powerful at one point but they were nowhere as omnipotent and omnipresent as paranoid schizophrenics like the captain believe. And then they are split into too many smaller institutions all at each others throats to create any type of conspiracy against anyone.
DeleteYou are spot on Ysv :-D
Delete@ysv rao,
Deleteof course, Rothschild family is not the one who owns everything ( i believe so). It is the Bilderberg club ( a set of corporate multi billionares) that sets the agenda.
America and Israel are definitely not enemies, but this shrewd corporate stooges.
The bilderberg club sets a top level agenda - the agenda of New World Order.
why is the west so furious against Putin. Putin is a patriot and he threw out the evil bankster gangsters, considerably reduced gross debt. Russia, china started trading out of dollar. these are the real causes.
Russia acquired Crimea as it is a strategic port ( to defend NATO agression).
So lets dont rule out the NWO agenda. It is real and live.
Have you seen stooges like Arundathi roy spits anti-patriotism ( her recent book).
NWO stooges wants the patriotism to be killed thereby bring in the NWO
Ok this is serious problem I continue to have with the supporters of the captain.
DeleteIt is this constant shifting of goalposts that you do to save face and hide your ignorance
So all of a sudden the issue of not the Rothshild since I proved you wrong but this caricatured group called Bilderburg
Im aware of the Bilderburg group again from way before not from some captains blog or even the EVILLLL conservative Zionist supporting Republican American corporate honcho but anti Zionist old school Democrat writer called Steve Sailer . The Bilderberg group is nothing more than some silly billionaires club who like feel more important than they really are.No one speaks of the Davos meetings which may more sinister than the Bilderberg group.
Tell me what are the minutes of the meeting of the Bilderberg group? How do they set the world agenda for say 2014 from their meeting in 2013?
Which aspects of the agenda did they set and which came true?
Again shifting the very definition of Israel and America from nation states to corporate stooges just to save face. Which corporations are making these countries their stooges and how? And what instruction are these stooges and why? What benefit do these "corporations" get by saying the actions of American in 2013 and Israel in 2012.
Ok how did a corporation like Goldman Sachs or General Electric benefit by Obamas drone attacks or Israels war on Gaza or bombing of a Syrians weapons depot?
To be sure America's fear of Russia is a tad irrational but only a tad.
DeleteRussians are deeply xenophobic and anti American. I hope you realize that under Putin , the Russian Orthodox Church has recieved carte blanche to conjoin with security forces to harass rival religions like Judaism, Islam Hinduism and Buddhism.
Russians may be patriotic but what is the end result of their patriotism. Tell me how exactly is the behavior of Putin in Chechnya any better than Bush in Afghanistan or Iraq? If anything Putin was far more bloodthirsty and brutal ...which is why he was successful while the idealistic Bush faltered despite the tactically successful surge of 2007.
And again using gangster states like Syria and Iran to terrorize the entire Middle East.
If you ask an average Arab which country is much crueler to Arabs , he will whisper Iran under bated breath even as he shouts death to Israel in the street.
Putin actually has some support in U.S among christian conservatives due to opposition to gay rights and support for traditional family values. This is one of the reasons why Obamas Syria and Ukraine intervention schemes were duds.
Germany,Poland,Finland,Hungary and other successful Eastern block countries have understable fear of a resurgent Russia. Before speaking garbage of NWO conspiracy against Russia, put yourself in their shoes. Germans were devastated by the Soviet invasion where there was mass rape of Soviet women. While FInland, Hungary and Poland were swallowed up whole.
But then I dont expect Vadakayil supporters to have any grasp of history outside of paranoid conspiracy websites
@ysv rao,
DeleteIt is for the dollar dominance, for which they fight for.
They want all countries to be traded with dollar. So whoever controls dollar, controls the world.
since Russia,syria,iran...etc they dont depend on dollar for trade. So they are targeted.
It is the debt based economy and fractional reserve system the most evil thing in the world.
Time to move on to a free transparent currency for international trade
world will be a better place.
BTW, world history is very much manipulated .. i am very much convinced on this. Not just from Vadakayil, but from my own research also.
oh shut up truthunveiled. Once again jumping from failed point to dud argument like a monkey on crack.
DeleteYou have addressed practically ZERO of the points I made and now in a flop sweat fall back on the old dollar canard.
What is a more transparent currency. THe rouble? The Yuan? Only an idiot like you will believe this.
Atleast the U.S is a open economy and society so investors know exactly what they are getting into.
Something you CANNOT say about your beloved Russia and China whose economic clout may well be hyper inflated.
I have no doubt history is written with an ideological agenda which very often does not conform with the facts that transpired. But people like Vadakayil are not the solution but only spreading even more ignorance and confusion.
you haven't understood world economics. use your brain and commonsense (if you have).
DeleteThere is no point in arguing with you. easy to wake up the sleeping, but impossible to wake up those who pretend.
If you are very well knowing world economics, please put a post, we'll debate on that.
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ReplyDeleteNot only info,even definite conclusions are scattered on the net and in literature :-) Have it your way Signor . But do know that the world is a blend of black and white.All the best brother.I am also promising to all Capt supporters that I will not analyse and DISMANTLE Capt's posts,as I also have respect for him.He also helps many people with his advice on diseases and other problems in the comments section and I appreciate that very much :-) Overall Capt is a very good man(this is just my assumption),but not one who should be followed blindly.
ReplyDeleteI disagree with you here. The captain may have been a good man when younger(at least that's the impression I get) but now the nastiness, rage and hatred just pours out of the screen . I honestly cant read all his posts at one time since I feel queasy.
DeleteWhy are people coming to him for medical advice? Also you know the captains blog is heavily censored. Of course he will allow only those who claim that his advice worked. Did it work or was it in conjunction with professional medical expertise? If you cut and paste some advice from web md and ayurvedic websites, there are chances that someone will be cured.
DeleteBut what about those who are not? We will never hear from them, would we?
Yeah this was an aspect which did not come to my mind.It is really hard to verify the medical efficiency of Capt when the comments are being moderated.Anyway I just have a weakness of believing someone who seems to be helpful to others.I am just believing that Capt is a problem-solver for some people atleast :-)
DeleteFirst they say Captain is a crook and chooth. When confronted they will say there are certain good aspects! Then they will say he has limited following! If you confront them they will say they meant "his chemical posts" as if they dont know that chemical posts are not needed in daily life! Then they say they can dismantle him but they are not gonna do it for the sake of CAPTAIN's well wishers! Sometimes they do admit that they visit Captains blog in different names to praise him! What are they? Are their existence and beliefs threatend so badly due to this man? I leave it to the prudent!
ReplyDeleteIf you have written the above comment targeting me,then please tell me where I have mentioned Capt to be a crook and chooth.Please point out the line where I said Capt has limited following.I started the discussions here by saying that some parts of Capt's blogs are good.I joined this discussion only to understand why some readers are blindly following the Capt and spreading whatever he says.Otherwise I have no problems with the Capt.See my first comment here.I do not see the world as black and white.Black and white are mixed up in reality.Are you reading properly what I am writing ? Can't you praise the good points of a person and point the bad in him?What does your perception say about this?My perception is that VERY VERY few people in this world are totally good or totally evil.So,in most cases it is wise to use one's own thinking.When I read your last comment,my immediate feeling was that you read only 30% of my comments and you are assuming the rest of things.If not then I must say you are chickening out from a logical discussion.Anyway I humbly accept your opinion.I did say that I can dismantle Capt's blogs.But YSV has already done that in a macro way in this article :-) .If possible try to defend the points he has raised,instead of ducking .Now if we start to write about every individual blog or observation of Capt,that will require a whole new blog in itself.If i do that,you will accuse me of mirroring the Capt for fame and reputation :-) I visit the Capt's blogs with my same profile name JAM.But the capt never publishes the tough questions I raise in his blog.So you will find that only the supportive comments I have written.I must say that Capt also avoids a logical discussion just like you.If you ask anything contradictory,there is high chance you will be branded a Deshdrohi :-)
ReplyDeleteSorry dude it was for the prudent! Then what contradictions Ysv was picking? The prediction about Mc Cain? Captain also admitted it and gave reasons for the same. Is that a big contradiction? Even the POPE admitted that the earth is round against his earlier belief! Then what? Do you want us to believe that you appear in different names to escape is wrath? What type are you? Do you believe if I say that YSV also did not publish and answer certain serious questions asked? Will you dumb Ysv for that matter as you do in the case of Captain? Some may blindly follow Captain and some may not. What you have got to do with that? Have you not seen that some are blindly following POPE and believe in what ever rubbish the BOOK says? What you got to do with that?
ReplyDeleteI have written a lot about the captain and how he is a crackpot, if you cant read it or are so cowardly and dishonest that you don't wish to address it that is your problem
DeleteI am not Catholic but Hindu( a much better one than you) , what makes you think I care about the Popes opinion?
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ReplyDeleteSorry Sugamar, I yield to your challenge. Indeed you are correct. I cant post even 1/10th of the hatred, insanity, stupidity and bigotry.
DeleteIf posting blog posts like the captain is perception and having brains then I would prefer to be dim and brainless!
Once again an impotent order and threat from a feeble keyboard warrior instructing me to STOP posting about their Captain baba.
Hey Sugumar, son of a filthy whore. I will not only post more about the captain but if you don't stop talking nonsense, I will include your stripper mom as well. So pipe down doggy
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DeleteWhat are you saying Signor?Are you getting angry and losing sight?Can't you see that YSV doesnot censor any comments like Capt?He has an open comment publication policy in his blog.You can ask YSV any logically relevant tough questions that you have.Even if you rant irrelevant useless stuff,that will also be published here.You are spot-right when you say "Some may blindly follow Captain and some may not. What you have got to do with that? " some of us who are destined to eternally weak perception do not follow Capt blindly.But just as Blind capt followers spread his views in the comments section of many websites,similary I thought the right to criticise these followers in the net would also be bestowed upon us in a democratic country.Now if you anger has reduced,I may point out that Blind Pope followers are equally criticised by many,just like Shirdi Sai Baba and his devotees are criticised by Capt and his followers.But have you lost track of the fact that criticism of Pope was not the point of our discussion?Whenever you open up your opinion in public domain,you are bound to be analysed.This is the reality,Accept it.Perhaps you have forgotten that this blog was not started by me.If you are so adamant about any counterview then you should not visit and argue with halfwits like us :-) .If you mean "The Holy Bible" as the BOOK,then my recommendation is that please do not insult any other religion's holy books.Apart from the Gita and Hindu texts(I am a Hindu),I have read the Old testament .The Book you are calling rubbish has been praised by none other than Swami Vivekananda :
ReplyDeletehttp://www.swamivivekanandaquotes.org/2013/04/swami-vivekananda-quotes-on-jesus-christ.html
"Do you want us to believe that you appear in different names to escape is wrath? What type are you?"
Sorry but I couldnot understand what you are trying to say .So I could not reply to this question.
Capt's supporters are all bringing lame 1/10th or 1/100th numbers.Still not a single one of them,as of now,has been able to logically counter YSV atleast in this blog.I do not know if they are putting up a defence in Capt blog :-)
ReplyDeleteA Bomber for YSV or YSV HIMSELF? Swami Vivekananda had said so many other things. Do you want me to repeat the same and feel ashamed of the BOOK? You are a pretender! You are disturbed because your foundation of beleif is shaken! What prompt you to think that I am a Hindu so that you declare your belief? You can fool the people only for sometime! Don't feel hurt when YSV is attacked.The Bombing has just begun. It is nothing but a sample!
ReplyDeleteLOL a keyboard warrior. "bombing has begun" .hahahaha Silly boy I am Hyderabad with relatives in Rayalaseema. And I lived in Iraq, been to Israel and in a high crime area in major U.S cities.
DeleteHere is a word of advice: never try to intimidate someone by referring to your pathetic posts as"bombings" when your ahem target himself has seen bombings himself. hahahaha forget bombings you seem to me the kind of person that when balloon pops unexpectedly you wet your pants! hahahahaha LOLL "bombings" thanks for the laugh
When did I assume you are a hindu?I said " please do not insult any other religion's holy books.", because I am a Hindu and christianity is a different religion to me.You probably misunderstood my statement.Anyway I should have presented myself better in this part.So I cannot blame you for this at all.I admit my fault.As for the declaration part,I will always proudly declare that I am a Hindu,and all people,irrespective of their religion,have the right to do so.But whatever religion you belong to or believe in,you cannot accuse me of demeaning any of the two religions.i.e, hinduism or christianity which I have mentioned.Please give what demeaning aspect of the Bible Swami Vivekananda has mentioned.Rather I am giving you a comment of Swami Vivekananda for the Christians who believe in Bible:
ReplyDelete"Dont follow the Bible. Be the Bible".
When you criticise Bible by calling it rubbish,an innocent Christian reader might feel hurt.I do not know what Capt says on this,but my perception is that there are both good and bad humans in all religions of the world.I felt very hurt as a Hindu when I read Kali's Child written by Jeffrey J Kripal.The person does not understand the stature of Sri Ramakrishna and gives mindless criticism and concoctions about the liberated soul who glorified our Hinduism by his own teachings,lifestyle and the mentoring of Swami Vivekananda.What is my foundation of belief?Please clarify.I am not hurt,rather amused at the lack of arsenal that Capt followers are having in this blog.Even if I start defending Capt on the issues YSV raised,I will be able to put up a better defence than you guys.Do not bring out useless slangs and abuses in the name of defence.Not a single one of you has till now focussed on the core issues raised in the article :-) I am not YSV ,but I may seem to be a bomber for YSV to you :-D I have actually defended Capt in the October 2013 blog of YSV written on similar topic.Please Check that.(There I have use two accounts JECK and JAM).
I feel frightend. The coin has two sides. One pleading and another thrashing! What a nice language! All was to find the Jack. Enjoyed the game. Thank you.
ReplyDeleteWhat the hell does that even mean? Im afraid like the captain, you also need shock treatments. Please proceed post haste!
DeleteYSV by now we have been branded Christian converts for sure :-) .Anyway I personally didnot intend to join the convert bandwagon so hastily.But my last comment which had some lines favouring the Holy Bible will do the job,I guess.Signor has already hinted this.The problem with Signor is that he will read half of your comment and imagine the other half.As of now he has ducked all the points I put up for him.I feel I need to join the Capt side to fight against you :) You are enjoying too much of an advantage here against the multitude of Capt followers :-) These people really have little idea on how to debate healthily and put a credible defence.I see no improvement of this situation in the future,except ofcourse some extra brandnames for both of us :-P
DeleteHai, Mr. YSV, What you write about Rothschild is all cut and paste from Wikipedia. We know about Rothschild for long. If you have time please tune Youtube
ReplyDeleteThere is a speech made by an American Senetor in the Senate Hall (ten minutes long). He is neither a Hindu nor a disciple of Captain. I have one more request if you have time please pen about the Joshua project onee and two. And if it is real how it will affect social and religious fabric of Indian Society, Since it is foreign funded.
I was aware of the Rothschild conspiracy theories and also the rebuttals to the same long before Ajit Vadakayil perhaps even heard of the internet!
DeleteWhen I was in studying in U.S in the late 90s, I came across all varieties of folks such as those with neo Nazi sympathies as well as hard core Zionists and plain old fashioned Christian fundamentalists. Not to mention athiest communist types.
I came across the Rothschild controlling the world claim from neo Nazi guys as well as the communists.
Even then it sounded too fantastic as it is pretty impossible to regulate one country's economy ,forget about the whole world.
At the time I was doing engineering ,later on when I took economics courses and learnt about central banks,free markets and interest rates etc, I further was convinced at the silliness of all the Rothschild Overlord claims.
There is no Rothschild conspiracy but there is however a disproportionate power that Wall Street firms such as Goldman Sachs et al wield. but really it is a soft power such as promoting foolish financial products such MBS (MOrtgage backed securities ) and CDS(credit default swaps) which were responsible for the 2008 financial crisis.
ANd no Rothshild does NOT control these institutions. If you have prooof, please provide it.
And neither does it control Central Banks around the world. I am against central banks such as the Federal Reserve because at best they are a mixed blessing.
Signor it is good that you knew about rothschild for long :-) But what exactly made you think that YSV doesnot know about Rothschilds more than you do?Has this ever crossed your mind that the Capt might be a disguised Rothschild agent?The way he says about the inner network of Rothschilds should raise some suspicion :) .Anyway whatever Capt has written about Rothschilds and Joshua is also borrowed from other sources.Please do not boast about it.Capt is echoing the opinions of some other speculative writers and conspiracy bloggers.But I do agree with your point that the Joshua project is not good for India.Ofcourse it is foreign funded and it has the potential affect the fabric of our society,if it is wrongly targeted.Even the mainstream nonconspiracy websites acknowledge this.
ReplyDeleteActually I wanted to hear from YSV. But you are in haste as usual. Please please read what Ysv wrote in the commeny column abt Rothschild and then hear what the American Senator has to say about the same. YSv in sweeping statement said that it was all past! Now believe me I can rebut his post word by word. How come YSV,YOU and me come to know about the drinking habit of Captain? Was that only through him? Yet YSV like child attacks him for heavy drinking! Who is upright here Ysv or Captain? He was Sailor for 40 years and believe me I have every means to know about him.He was a great Captain.Ican rebut whatever thrash Ysv writes about him.
ReplyDeleteSignor I apologise for jumping into the discussions,but this is an open blog and not a censored one like Capt's.So all of us can do this with ease.Even you can reply to any of my comments.Signor I also believe that Rothschilds have a financial hold on the world economy.But do not use a video link of a Senator as proof of Rothschild.Its just a personal opinion of some person.As of now no one has been able to furnish any valid evidence of the financial clout and Illuminati links of Rothschild.Whatever theories have cropped up in this area are solely based on speculative investigation.So if YSV sweeps out the Rothschilds it is useless blaming him.Try to understand this point.If you search the Net and printed literature,you will find hoards of speculative counter claims that Rothschilds have lost a major part of their control over the world.
Delete"How come YSV,YOU and me come to know about the drinking habit of Captain? Was that only through him? Yet YSV like child attacks him for heavy drinking!"
See the blog by Capt "BEER, MODERATE DRINKING FOR GOOD HEALTH ".Anyway how is the question of uprightness coming here?I do not doubt at all the career accomplishments of Capt.I believe he was a great capt and I admire him for that.But YSV wrote the blog on the contradictory claims of Capt.You are mixing it up with his career.You are welcome for a good logical rebuttal.That's exactly what we,the lesser halfwits,want from you and other Capt supporters.
signor you are a damn fool. I never chastised the captain for his drinking but for his hypocrisy in not recognizing our ancients drank liquor and ate meat.
Deleteyou havent rebutted anything so far. So stop these false claims
If there are claims and counter claims about a subject then use your brain analyse the situation and reach at your own conclusion. If you cant reach a coclusion. Dont worry there are halfwits and even Dumb wits in this world. Captain shoulders responsibility for his blogs he gives his every details including famliy and evev photographs. This can not be said in the case of some bloggers who prefer darkness. One can not claim " I criticized him" aftr using most foul words to attack him. Each day Captain is gaining acceptance. It will cotinue.
ReplyDeleteAtlast I give way to you Signor :) My halfwit has run out of stock. Anyway I enjoyed discussions with you.
DeleteSo you are saying because I am anonymous and the captain is out there in open , you will believe whatever crackpot theory he spouts but if I state 2+2=4, you would be wary as Im anonymous. Wow great logic
DeleteBrother Jam, please do me a favor I really want a post abt Josha project by YSV. I want to clear certain things. You may also request the same for me. Thanks.
ReplyDeleteBrother Signor,if YSV ever writes about Joshua project at all,it will not fire up your imagination,I promise that.He will not make hyper-inflated claims and assumptions on a topic.His writing will be based on ground reality and not over-use of perception.You will not even bother to read what he writes :).The problem with perceptive &speculative wrting is that you can make wild guesses,accusations and allegations and bring perception to your defence against a logical debate.See perception is much inferior to the insight gained through hardcore meditation which our sages used to speak of in the past.Do not mix perception of a person with the inner sight of a sage.Most of the Capt supporters do not care to acknowledge this difference.A level of perception can help to understand things but it is not a very reliable tool when it comes to historical analysis,as it is inherently biased in favour of the perceiver.For that,you must have to undertake deep study of the particular scenario from as many sources possible.After that,a bit of logical(and not wild) perception might help.But the Capt often distorts the open facts to match his perception.This is called "confirmation bias".You will understand this if you do not blindly follow whatever Capt says and read more on the topics.
DeleteRegarding Joshua project, of course I am not a fan of a concerted effort of evangelicals to convert Hindus to Christianity.
DeleteThe very name Joshua highlights the aggressive nature of this project. Joshua was the second in command of Moses who possibly carried out the first genocide mentioned in the Bible when he killed Canaanite men,women and young males.The young females were married off to the Israelite warriors.
If they were more laid back in their approach, they wouldve called it the Paul project named after the St Paul(formerly Saul)
Anyhow evangelicals believe that the 2nd coming of Christ will not occur until the whole world was evangelized. And hence the enthuasism of the Joshua project for extensive record keeping of various ethnic groups around the world.
When the New World was discovered , there was an apocalyptic fever across Europe as it was believed as now that the entire world is reachable by the Christian misssionaries, it would be only a matter of time before the anti Christ appears thereby paving the way of the militant Christ on a white horse with a sword.
Having said all that ,our country has a freedom of religion clause where people can change religion as they wish. There are often Christian to Hindu conversions. Actress Nayantara(Diana Miriam Kurien) a Syrian Christian from Kerala converted to Hinduism to marry Lingayat Prabhu Deva and there was no outcry or threat of Crusade from the Christian community, please note!
Keep in mind, how badly Hindus treated each other that the missionary and imam seemed to a lot of lower castes and Dalits as redeemers. For eg in Kerala lower caste women were often killed,raped or their breasts chopped off if they dared to appear in public covering their breasts! this ordeal ended when they changed their name to Ayesha or Ruth!
Similarly even a shadow of a paraiyar was not allowed to touch a Nair or Nambudhiri . If it occured the Nair would happily kill that unfortunate with his sword. Again this outcaste individual by becoming John or Ismail from Gopikuttan suddenly became a respectable member of society with full fledged rights
Tell me, what would you do if you were such an outcaste?
Another reason I do not give any heed to the Joshua project is because a great of converts in India atleast still cling to their religion and identity.
In Andhra for eg, the much demonized YSR who was an evangelical was also a devotee of Tirupati and contrary to the crackpot captains claims actually stopped Christian conversions in the temple town. True he siezed a lot of land belonging to temples but Hindu politicians do such things all the time and they even donate it to Muslims! But YSR gave it to his supporters(mostly Hindu) and not to Christian organizations.
Being from Andhra I know this much, if you ask a lower caste Christian guy if he is a Christian, he will deny it as much as possible.
He will go to the extant of highlighting his last name be it Mala, Madiga, Reddy or Yadav and actually maintain the grove of kul devata. I knew Christians who regularly broke a coconuty in front of Anjaneyaswami (Hanuman) temple asking for his blessings before an exam or a job interview
In the end, the real worry is not Joshua project but the rotten state of Hinduism. If we just treat each other humanely , there is no need for even insisting on inter caste marriage as even lower castes are not interested most of the time, and just let everyone live peacefully and prosper, we need not worry about any Joshua project or dirty Wahhabi Saudi money.
Hi ysv rao
DeleteI am mot a vadakayil zombie here lol.
But yeah this is regarding u saying that imamas and missionaries treated lower caste hindus well idk much about kerala of what the nairs did but yeah i can say that thses missionaries are noo good .....what do they do is fool innocent ppl to convert to their relegion by creating false propoganda .....this is nothing but pristitution of soul which is being practised by em and this is too wrong .......even europe had a class sysytem where the fudeal lords there created hell for the lower class ppl there ....this existed in every society and not just india .
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DeleteKkk.. what YSV is telling is not wrong.A lot of the "hindu to other religion conversions" was because of the way Hinduism marginalised its lower classes at that point of time.The same problem also occurred in Bengal.You might know about the bengali social reformer Sri Ishwar Chandra Vidyasagar.At first he wanted to stop the active Christian missionary agenda by taking them head-on .But soon he realised that it was the outlook of Hindu society that needed to be changed.For instance he couldnot stop a widowed young mother from accepting christianity at the request of a local missionary.He experienced the helplessness of the deprived sections of Hindu society.As a result he later focussed on social reforms within Hindu society to make it more tolerable.It does not mean that Hinduism had become inferior to the other religions,it was a social problem that needed social reforms and not religious reforms.Mind it I am not taking about Vedic philosophy or Hinduism as a religion here, which I am very proud of being a Hindu by birth,rather I am pointing out the social problems that existed at that time.Capt followers confuse themselves at this point,because he always propagates that most of the evil practices of Hindu society didnot exist,and it was a grand Rothschild plan to denigrate Hinduism.But had it been so,people like VIdyasagar would not have cropped up.Kkk... your point is correct, the misisonaries fooled innocents and Europe,USA or Great Britain were not glorious societies throughout their history.But the point is that we Hindus conceded the ground to them indirectly through our social malpractices.I do not believe that even now they are any better,unless ofcourse you consider only individual freedom as a yardstick,in which they will beat Indian society any day.But overall health of a society depends on many other factors.
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DeleteThat was not a defense of the Joshua Project or evangelization in India in general. Indeed luring people to a religion under false pretences is dishonorable. And Im not saying the plight of the lower castes in India is unique. Heck Im not even saying it is Hindu indeed how they were treated is adharma and contrary to our scriptures and historical experience.
Just that for a person in that situation we should be understanding if they are tempted to convert if they are promised a better life.
My solution is to restore Hinduism to its former glory. Certainly not to cast Hinduism into Christain terms like the Brahmo Samaj did
Brother, your wise words cleared all my Doubts. I will not ask any more. Pardon me. May your sagely wisdom save so many persons from hell through the mercy of the saviour of mankind. Nothing offensive can be done by words or deeds to jeopardize heavenly programmes. Please pray for this corrupt soul.
ReplyDeleteBrother Signor,again half reading and half imagining or rather perceiving by you on what i have written :) Please do not consider me a sage,which again is the product of your incomplete reading of my comment.Capt will get angry. As of now he will be happy with your progress in giving wild statements :) and for your knowledge,deficiency of logic in an argument and half-reading is never considered corruption in any religious belief as far as I know :) So do not worry bro .
ReplyDeleteThe captain is a nutcase Period.
ReplyDeleteMr. YSV,
ReplyDeleteThe Jousha project was started in the year 1995. Now, You speak about the practice of untouchablity existed in Kerala nearly 100 years ago and want to connect the both! When speaks about a project which started recently why do you speak about a extinct practice? You are a BIG FOOL! Gopikuttan or Raju may have changed religion in the past due to various reasons including the one you substantiated. But tell me the names of persons who were killed for touching a Nair of Brahmin in Kerala. You can not escape by making sweeping allegations! In the entire history of Kerala only one woman chopped her breasts herself that too as a protest against the Taxation ( Mula Karam) by then Travancore Kingdom in 1803. Her name was Nangeli. Nearly 200 years passed. Tell me names of other women, whose breasts are chopped off! And people like you want to project Hindu religion as rotten so that others can reap benefit! How fraudulent are you! You are indeed cunning when you connect these things forgetting the time span! Tell me the Hindu name of Nayanthara after she changed her religion? You fool !! Prabhudeva and Nayanthara visited Guruvayoor temple and she was not permitted inside being a Christain! And she did not dispute the same! Now what you say. Your gimmick is not gonna sell here. Majority of Christains in Kerala are 'SYRIAN CHRISTAINS' they claim to be Brahmins converted by St.THOMAS and not because of untouchablity. Now what You say fool! In Kerala there is only one muslim majority district ie MAKAPPURAM. Muslims became majority there during the reign of Hyderali and Tippu Sultan! Now what you say fool! Want to teach history from ME ? I am ready!
I was making a point about evangelicals in general but not Joshua project in particular.
DeleteWhat does Nayanthara non allowance in the ultra conservative Guruvayoor have to do with the point I made? Really you Vadakayil supporters have rocks for brains.
As for cutting off of the breasts , apparently the captain is allowed all sorts of flights of fancy but if I make one dramatic statement only slightly exagerrating the experience of a group...horror of horrors
Muslims may not have been a majority in Kerala from before but they were a strong minority. What is your point about Hyder Ali and Tipu Sultan exactly?
"Want to teach history from ME?" I think you mean if I want to LEARN history from you.
Whether or not I learn history from you or any other paranoid idiot. One things for sure. I am not learning English haha
Nothing but escapism when confronted with fact! ha ha ha.
DeleteGreat comeback. You sure bowled me over.
DeleteApparently I need to mention the names of the victims of Nair and Nambuthiri castism over the last 1000 years to prove an incidental point but it is perfectly A OK for the captain to deny that the Holocaust every occured!
Please respond when you are ready to remove one foot out of your mouth and your brain out of your ass
Was it untouchablity that evangelized entire Europe? Was it untouchablity that evangelized Africa? What happened to the old religions and civilizations? All perished due to their relentless programme. In every nation they executed their plans and "blamed the local people"! Father Desmond Tutu once said " When they came they had Bilbe and we had land. Now we have Bible only and they have land!" And here FOOLS making ground for them to progress in their mission by spreading BIG LIES!
ReplyDeleteIt was the Roman Empire that evanglized Europe which Christianity simply coopted.
DeleteThe era of discovery and imperialism aided missionary activity to the receptive Africans.
Neither is a defense of Chrisitianity
You are an idiot if you believe I am for Christian missionary activities. But then you are a Vadakayil supporter after all!
Signor at last you have made a relevant point.You have written about the modern world history in a very well articulated manner.It was not untouchability in any case.It was the military aggression combined with outwardly benevolent or outright aggressive missionary zeal that did it.Joshua project is a modern day tool for this.Nobody is denying it,neither YSV nor I.But if you explore the cause of evangelization in India,it was not as simple as in Africa or America.If you put 18th century India in same basket with medieval Europe,16th century America and Africa,then you are generalising too much.What you are saying is right to some extent,Missionaries have used the ground conceded by us partly through state machinery and partly through our own social problems.Please read my October 27, 2014 at 9:19 AM comment if you have time and patience.Accepting this does not mean that you are denigrating Vedic Hinduism.It is the same Hinduism which gave us stalwarts like Vivekananda,Ramana Maharshi,Shankaracharya and countless others.But outright denying that there were no real evils in Indian society and everything was manufactured,is too much of a simplification of the scenario.Just think about this,Vivekananda and Vidyasagar were people of 19th century.They had spoken extensively about social evils in Hindu society.Were they denigrating Hinduism?Or are you in absolute denial mode?And do not accuse me of escaping from the Nayanthara or Nair issue because I don't know anything about these :) .
DeleteNothing but escapism when confronted with facts! HA HA HA! Dont spread LIES! With respect to Nayanthara, you said she was converted to Hinduism. Then why she did not acknowledge the same when permission to Temple was denied on religious ground? I am not a missionary employed in USA, UK, IRAQ etc....to be proficient in English. I studied in a pucca Govt. School there English was never a medium. Neither I had the luck to be born in a rich family But this much English is enough to deal you. A patriot Russian or JAPANESE will not utter like you, but only CHUTNEY MARYS and PICKLE JOHNS unfortunately destined to be known as INDIANS, do like this!
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DeleteI suppose this is how Vadakayil supporters attempt to win arguments when their piss poor debating skills and utter lack of knowledge doesnt suffice
Delete1. Make wild claims and ask the skeptic to disprove them
2. When disproved(Rothschild is too fragmented to make a difference), shift goal posts(no its not Rothschild its Bilderberg, no its not Israel and America but the corporates)
3. Accuse the poster of wild claims himself(accused me of Joshua Project exisiting a 100 years ago when i was speaking of evangelicals in general)
4. Sieze on irrelevant claims(Nair and Nambuthiri atrocities) and insist on incident reports more than a 100 years ago
5. Just plain ignorring evidence(Nayanthara conversion to Hinduism) and go off on weird tangent(she was denied admission to temple). What does one thing have to do with the other? Some temples , Im not sure if it was Guruvayoor even denied Indira Gandhi and Rajiv Gandhi entrance. Their criteria is absurdly strict. Just FYI when they find out that Vadakayil consumed beef, he would be banned as well LOLL
Once again making idiot claims about me being a missionary. So any one who works abroad becomes a missionary in your book? LOL idiot by that Logic Vadakayil himself is a missionary hahahaha
I wasnt born in a rich family either genius. If you read my main post, you would note that we had to wait for a year to get a rotary phone and had only doordarshan as entertainment like anyone else. We had a color TV and VCR I guess so by the relative standards in the late 80s we were rich but not for long as the gogo 90s was right around the corner
It is not richness that compelled me to read the Puranas, Vedas,Samhitas etc etc on my own or learn Hebrew,Arabic, Spanish and (failed attempt) at Japanese apart from my native language of Telugu and broken Tamil and (now forgotten) Punjabi and Bengali
I am not mocking you for English not being your first language but for you being an idiot. If you have a problem with communicating in English, dont do it. Type in Hindi if you wish(as I think that is an Indian language we both understand) and I will respond to it.
The "patriot" Japanese are technically still an occupied people as U.S maintains troops there and dictates its foreign policy. Not to mention Japanese women go out of their way to reject Japanese men and couple with American males be they tourists or GIs
Thank god Indians are not this "patriotic"
Russians btw have a severe inferiority complex about their language atleast since Peter the Great. It was said that the Russian intelligentsia thought in German and spoke in French.
To some extant this is still true. When I visited Russia almost 10 years ago, I was not prepared for the lack of communication as hardly anyone spoke English. But they were quite happy to converse in French and German. I got by somehow with my (broken) French and passable Spanish(for some reason quite a few Russians learn this language as well)
So spare me these stupid lectures about foreign peoples and their "patriotism"
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DeleteMr. YSV, when I ask you the names of persons killed and women whose breasts are chopped of due to castism u need not give me the actual details rather provide me the source of your knowledge so that I can verify. I will not allow you to rant freely whatever you think. You FOOL! Now you always rant Captain is illogical Captain is illogical! Some where I saw you abusing Captain for his post regarding Judaism. Now I am gonna defend him! FOOL GET READY! Since I am posting this using Mobile phone wait until tomorrow as I am not having a Computer and Internet connection at home. I think u know how hard it is to post something BIG. O.K. FOOL! One more thing I will soon be proficient in vulgar and abusive language due to your company! Got it you FOOL?
ReplyDeleteRead my reply above to your other post. When you try to be intellectually rigorous and issue a challenge, it reminds me of a kitten trying to roar like a lion but ending up only mewing
DeleteWait FOOL let us see who is mewing! You can rant and go on but can not be asked specifics! A total dumbwit beating around the bush and claiming victorious! A total failure! Why can't you wait fool? Read again what you wrote. Still not answering anything FOOL!
ReplyDeleteI dont know have to answer your query since it was incidental to my point and only an ignoramus would doubt the mistreatment of lower castes under Nair/Nambudhiri feudal society. Indeed even your beloved captain believes this. Take it up with him
DeleteRussian inteligentia thought in German spoke in French and tell me wrote in.......what? Fool writing something to create an impression!
ReplyDeleteYou are having a problem with the Russian Intelligentsia comment,it seems.So i am accusing you of being a Russian hasbara activist :-) Forgive me but I often get this type of logic from you.Anyway I have a solution for your problem Brother.CHeck this link.Yor query will be answered on why Russian intelligentsia neglected Russian language :
Deletehttp://www.quora.com/Did-the-Russian-nobility-of-the-18th-19th-century-speak-their-French-with-a-Russian-accent-or-their-Russian-with-a-French-accent
See there is a big world outside Capt blog :) The author in the above link clearly wrote on this point.
Thank you JAM. I was going to make that point myself. The captains entire USP to his idiot readers is that he sailed around the world for 30 years and they admire his self described cosmopolitanism in this regard. If I so much as dare to mention the countries I visited ,all of a sudden I am a gora showoff wannabe.
DeleteTalk about double standards!
I have been to England, USA, RUSSIA,........I know english, french, Arabic......FOOL trying to make an impression without answering anything! Only learnt Vulgar and abusive language. Must have got a PhD in it. Fool. Any one impressed with his self boasting? Read Purana, Veda, Bible and what not. Still effecient only in abusing. Total failure.
ReplyDeleteSo when the Capt tells he roamed the world it is never a problem.Visiting a few countries is not a problem if your finances and nature of job permits.If you find his multiple language to be a boast,then I am utterly confuses how on earth you are able to follow Capt Blogs and support him :) .A few days back I was reading a blog by an Indian globetrotter who wrote that many Europeans with not so good academic accomplishemnts have still learnt three or four different European languages(like spanish,french etc).YSV will be able to tell about this better as he has visited Europe,I am just telling about another person's experience.You are selectively ignoring YSV's valid points and you do not have a clean sheet when it comes to abuse :) It will be much better if you refrain from using perception atleast while reading comments of others :)
DeleteJam, Suppose everythi ng was O.K..with India. No castism, all are equal, etc... Still evangalization would be there. There is no point in blaming and self loathing. The need of the hour is to stand united. And not to make breaches in the armour by making false and exagerated claims.
ReplyDeleteYes here I agree with you Signor.Evangelization would still be there even if we didnot have any social problems.In that case Missionaries would have used aggressive evangelization.The need of the hour is to stand united.India is passing through a tough time.But wait false and exaggerated claims are coming from which side afterall?Is the denial of open historical fact not exaggerated?Unless you acknowledge what was wrong with you in the past,you will never realise in the future that you are committing a mistake all the time.For example look at the middle Asian strict Islamic nations.They must accept that they have social problems,only then they will be able to reform themselves.Not everything under the sun is framed by Rothschilds.Accepting a flaw never amounts to self-loathing.But yes if I go on saying that Hinduism was never a glorious religion or India was never a supreme nation because it had social evils at one point of time in history,then I am surely a self-loather,anti-Hindu and anti-Indian.I hope now you will understand my views clearly.I have atleast formed one concrete opinion about you throuh your comments,i.e,you are a true nation-lover.We might differ on sub-points but this thing will always keep us united :)
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ReplyDeleteThe Captain in his blog stated that the Judaism was created by Namboothiris who were excommunicated and disgraced. And fools started crying for his blood!
Well, what we know about the origin of Jews is that they were the early migrant people living in the land (Egypt) of Pharaoh. There is no other historical details available as to their original land. As per their belief and Book they were the bansihed ( by God) people from Heaven. The reason for banishment was that the Satan by taking the form of a Snake, without the knowledge of God, influenced them and made to eat the fruit of knowledge against the instruction of God. Then they were instantly banished from Heaven. Here Snake stands for evil and also for Knowledge!
Forget Heaven and God. Then what we learn from the above is that they were banished from a place for doing something that was traditionly wrong!
Now about Kerala. This is the only country which is known as created by GOD (sixth avatar of Vishnu, Parashuraman). And he donated this land to the Brahmins called as Namboothiris. They were the chosen people! This is the only land in earth where the God asked them to worship Snakes by making “sarpakavu” almost in every house hold. And a Snake is synonymous with Knowledge. In Kerala there are famous Namboothiri Illams like Mannarasala, Pambumekkattu etc...where Snakes are supposed to live with the inmates and worshipped.
Now, Kerala is the only country that had transaction with the middle east from ancient times. Judaism which is monotheism is actually connected with “Advaitham” propounded by Adi Sankara. Now the thing is that Judaism has inherent racisim in it. They consider they are the chosen people by the God. Namboothiris also consider that they are the chosen people by the God!
When Jews were persecuted, Kerala was their first option! Out side middle east, first Synagogue, first Church and first Mosque were established in Kerala.
There are so many similarities between Jews and Namboothiris. Observant traditional Jews recite prayers and benedictions throuhout the day when performing various acts ie when wake up in the morning, before eating, drinking and after eating etc... This is exactly what the Namboothiris are doing even today!
It is not a coincidence that all three major religions are sprouted in Middle east and all are interconnected and the history of middle east is connected with Kerala from time immemorial.
Now, can you name a country any where in the world other than Kerala which can be termed as a home country for the Jews? Israel is only the promised land and not the land of origin. There is LOGIC when Captain says that Judaism was the creation of banished and excommunicated Namboothiris from Kerala. Of course there are missing links but we are dealing with ancient history. They may be the banished people for reasons unknown! If some white man presents the same theory all will surely say “yes this makes sense!”
This is not a cut and paste from internet. What I wrote above is my own conclusion after reading Captain. I dont know whether Captain will reveal more on the subject . I dont know whether he will approve me. But surely he is not a crackpot!
Really I believe that these captain followers should be allowed to participate in regular society. Their stupidity and ignorance is plain out of control!
Delete1. Jews did not pop in Egypt out of nowhere. Their tradition and considerable circumstantial archaeological evidence shows that they originally hailed from Ur of Chaldees later associated with Babylon in what is now Southern IRaq.
2. You damn fool, it is not Hebrews but humanitys ancestors Adam and Eve who were cast out of heaven as per their belief. Jeez man this is Bible 101
3. Snake worship or veneration of Nagas is not unique to Kerala. It is common all over India from Takshashila(today in Pakistan) to Assam all the way down to Andhra and Chola country and everything in between.
Nagavanshi Kshatriya can be found all over India for example
4. Pretty much the entire West coast of India had transactions with the Middle East. The most famous of this union being the Indus Valley Civiilization which had considerable Sumerian influence.There is also a Maharashtrian Jewish community just FYI and no Chitpavans are not descended from them.
5. Parasuram is most likely the most hated avatar of Vishnu ,perhaps more than Manu. It is Parashuram who created a FRAUDULENT identity called Brahmo Kshatriya or Brahmins who would manipulate their learnings to interfere or even participate in politics. Which is adharma. Brahmins were supposed to be priests, scholars or at best advisors.
When they take worldly pursuits they were no longer Brahmins.
What the idiot captain doesnt realize is that Chitpavans,Nambuthiri,Mohyal, Bhumihar and other political busybody Brahmins who have a tendency to promote religious gibberish are actually Parasuramic inventions!
6. Advaitam has absolutely nothing to do with Judaic monotheism. Maybe I missed something in the translation but I am not aware of the Brahman being "jealous and vengeful"! The roots of Judaism are very well laid out in the Bible. Sure there are some traditions which are borrowed such as the Tree of Knowledge(Kalpavriksha) but their most of their religious traditions are their with all their glories and warts
And FYI about the idiotic claim about the six pointed star
a. The star of David wasnt really associated with Judaism until the late 1800s. Indeed Israeli archaelogists are very suspicious of the antiquity of an artifact if they see anything resembling a 6 pointed star on it.
The traditional symbol of Jews was the menorah or 12 branch candelabra.
I am putting it clearly that I will be a proud Indian if,in future, it is circumstantially proved that Jews are ancient Namboothiri from Kerala.I am not a Keralean but I admire Kerala for many good things and after all Kerala is also India.So I am proud that we Indians have a state which is so rich culturally and unique among all states :) . The cultural and linguistic similarities of Ancient India and Judaism will surely work in favour of your theory.Kerala is historically one of the parts of India which has very ancient contacts with middle east.So here I agree with Capt's theory Signor.But I do not have a detailed knowledge in this area,and you can attribute my agreement to that also.I would like YSV and some other visitors here(not the glorious patriotic Capt types unless they can speak with logic:) ) to post the opinion here.On such speculative subjects,you must know every angle to frame a concrete opinion.Still I liked your logical and well-framed comment Signor and as I have already said,I agree with you here.
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Deleteb. I drew a 6 pointed star when I was barely two years old. And no I wasnt a Zionist hasbara at that age even though the captain may disagree(my Rothschild nursery teacher couldve brainwashed me LOLL). How hard is it for two distant cultures to come up with that symbols if a toddler can draw it?
7. No one of importance in India historically gave a damn about Nambudhiris. Not the Mauryas or the Guptas or Satavahanas. So they can crow about their chosen status all they wanted, it didnt make a dent on anyone except Nairs and Ezhavas.
8. Jews have been persecuted throughout history for different reasons. Some religious ,some cultural ,some economical. Their persecution in Egypt led to what was then Canaan not Kerala! The Babylonian invasions saw considerable dispersement to distant shores. Many even went to Egypt and Persia, not just Kerala. But a good chunk even stayed back in Babylon after they were liberated by Cyrus.
9. Jews never considered Kerala a "home country". They barely even care for Mt Sinai where Moses recieved the Ten Commandments ( it was handed back to Egypt in 1980 with relatively minimal fuss from the religious crowd). Their magnetic north always pointed to Israel.
10. No one , not even jews, said Israel is the land of their origin. What is your point
11, As you can see above there is neither logic nor fact in any one of your comical claims.
12. Forget about "white man",If Yahweh himself comes down and says Jews were from Kerala, I would not accept and ask Him to show me the proof. In Hinduism we have a saying, donot accept a lie even if Brahma accepts it. But idiots like you are more than happy to swallow whatever garbage the captain throws at you uncritically. That is what is called a cattle mindset.
See SIgnor if you read YSV's comments you will understand that there is much more to be studied and analysed before you can reach definite conclusions.This is the reason why hyper-nationalist historian of all nations are not given importance in the international intellectual community.Most of the time they cannot supply valid arguments to defend their incredible theories,and Capt thinks that it is all Zionist activity.While some manipulation regarding ancient Indian history and Vedic texts has been done by the pre-independence British administration in India,but that in itself is not an excuse for giving all the imaginary theories.You cannot accuse YSV of spreading misinformation atleast,because all that he is saying is based on recorded evidence.
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ReplyDeleteFool doesn't know Jews Christain & Moslems share common ancestors and Cteation! Fool doesnt know that God appeared before them as FIRE and they carried fire in their ARCH.This Naboothiris also kept fire in sacred place at home for centuries unextinguished. Adam and eve was not the ancestors of humanity. We have no such concept until white man came here. Every one knows Nagas are being worshipped many parts of the world. But not like the way as worshipped in Kerala. I dont know why he still believes white man's theroy with out any evidence! .
ReplyDeleteSignor who is saying Adam and Eve are ancestors of humanity?LOL I doubt even if Christians take this concept seriously.My view is that Adam and Eve signify something deeper and esoteric,just like our Vedas and Upanishads.You cannot analyse them literally in their apparent meaning.That will only lead to a baseless conclusion.I do not know whether Capt has written anything on this Adam-eve yet.But I will not take Capt's viewpoint on this deeper meaning,because I have understood that Capt is way too much uni-dimensional and biased to be taken seriously on many deep philosophical and spiritual issues.
DeleteIS NO LIMIT TO THE IDIOCY OF THE CAPTAIN FOLLOWERS MY GOD, SUCH PEOPLE SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO REPRODUCE!
DeleteI DO NOT BELIEVE IN ADAM AND EVEN CREATION STORY. I JUST TOLD YOU THAT IS WHAT JEWS BELIEVE.
THERE IS NOTHING UNIQUE ABOUT FIRE IN SACRED PLACES IN ANCIENT TIMES. IT PROVES ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. REMINDS ME OF THE IDIOTIC INDOLOGISTS WHO ATTEMPTED TO PROVE THAT ARYANS WERE DESCENDENTS OF SOME OBSCURE CENTRAL ASIAN TRIBE BECAUSE BOTH OF THEM WORSHIPPED THE SUN!
AND IT IS THE ARK OF THE COVENANT YOU ILLITERATE FOOL , NOT THE "ARCH"
KERALA HAS PRESERVED THE NAGA HERITAGE BETTER THAN OTHERS. IT HAD BEEN WIPED OUT IN REST OF INDIA. AGAIN THIS PROVES NOTHING ABOUT THE UNIQUENESS OF KERALA VEDIC CUSTOMS BUT THAT THE SOCIO POLITICAL SITUATION WAS MORE CONDUCIVE TO THE PRESERVATION OF THIS TRADITION
ONCE AGAIN YOU FUCKING IDIOT, I NEVER SAID I BELIEVE "THE WHITE MANS" THEORY BUT ONLY STATED WHAT THEY BELIEVED. ARE YOU SO SERIOUSLY RETARDED THAT YOU CANT DISTINGUISH BETWEEN THE TWO. WE ALL KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS QUESTIO SINCE YOU ARE A VADAKAYIL SUPPORTER.
Normally I don't like to "shout" ie use caps locks, but the utter stupidity and ignorance and posters of signor forces me to use whatever tools at my disposal to get the point across
"Jeez". Fool. I dont see any worthful point in his lecture. Still beating around the bush. Read thrice before publishing!
ReplyDeleteSignor, WELL SAID...
DeleteSignor ,Ashneel Kumar and Sugumaran are like three stooges without the humor but with extra stupidity and ugliness!
DeleteCAPTAIN IS RIGHT! CAPTAIN IS RIGHT! CAPTAIN IS RIGHT! NOW WATCH CNN IBN! Pope disowns Bible theory of crearion. He says God is not a magician
ReplyDeleteHe says God is nthing but natural forces! Now what Captain is Captain's prediction repeating many of blogs." After 2012 Dec 21 the veil of MAYA WILL BE RIPPED OPEN. THE WORLD WILL SEE THE ANCIENT WISDOM OF VEDAS AND SANATHANA DHARMA". POPE'S admission means the BOOK is not credible! This means dooms for all three major religions! I need to pen extensively! Wait fool! You will be dismantled for ever!
May blessings shower on you so that your words come true Signor :) . It would be a proud moment for all of us.Today I read in newspaper that Narendra Modi has accepted the use of advanced genetic science during the times of Mahabharata.i feel this is a sign of thing to come,i.e,the science in vedanta will be accepted by the world in future.So probably the dec 21 2012 theory is true.But what is amusing to me is your CAPTAIN IS RIGHT! exclamation :).This theory of new phase beginning from 21st dec 2012 is doing rounds on the net much before Capt even started writing his blog ;) . Now coming to the Pope point, I checked the link :
Deletehttp://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2014/10/28/pope-francis-backs-theory-of-evolution-says-god-is-no-wizard/
Are you saying about this news?Then I must say that the veil of maya has not lifted from the Pope fully,because he has supported the fake evolution theory :).Anyway its his personal choice and I have nothing to say about it.There is ample scientific evidence to show that evolution of humans from apes is invalid.But if he says that the God has created the world from a magic wand then I must say he has not understood the allegories in Bible.Bible was written in metaphors and allegories just like our ancient Vedanta.For example the Bible has a line :
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God"
Now doesn't this strangely resemble the Vedanta idea of AUM before creation?The pope probably branded this as magic :) ,he would not have if he had read Vedanta.I personally believe the Bible might have borrowed from our ancient Vedanta philosophy.There are many lines in Bible that indicate this.
Jam, you disappoint me with these comments. It is one thing for idiots like signor to indulge in the cult like behavior chanting mindlessly "captain was right" as if a devout Christian would say Hallelujah, but I expect better from you.
DeleteAnyway only those individuals who are thoroughly ignorant of post 1962(Second Vatican Council) can be shocked by these developments.
Signor,
THe Vatican church really watered down its religious restrictions and made attempts to make amends with its previous atrocities such as apologizing for their persecution of Jews and to a lesser extant native peoples in America(yes there is not yet an apology for Francis Xavier and the Goa Inquisition but that is only a matter of time).
Heck I realized that the Catholic isnt a..ahem catholic august institution as imagined to be after watching the movie The Exorcist. Keep in mind this movie was released in 1973 and was based (partially) on a true story written by a very devout Catholic William Peter Blatty who attended and set the story in the esteemed Catholic University -Georgetown -in a suburb of Washington DC.
One of the major sub themes of the movies was that the Church was too embarrassed of its "religiosity" and too corrupted by wordily morals. We see priests hanging out with the literati, politicians and film makers at cocktail parties imbibing their secular values along with copious amounts of alcohol.
We see Catholic establishment shying away from exorcism as a solution for what is evidentially a demonic possessed child and suggesting medical and psychiatric treatment.
Indeed the main character is a psychiatrist for the Georgetown priests himself. So overwhelmingly has the Catholic church surrendered to the therapeutic and worldly culture of secular society rather than seeing the tragic, evil and fallen nature of man as their theology mandates
The current pope who followed the conservative Benedict was a liberation theologist which is really a socialist masquerading as a Catholic.
I briefly attended a few courses in a Catholic university in America and took a few theology courses.And this university like many others was actually less about Catholic doctrine than about social justice and socialism. And liberation theology which was actually a nativist and communist agenda masquerading as Catholicism waged a very effective war against Reagans cold warriors during the 1980s.Even Pope John Paul II who was an ally of Reagan and Thatcher and cold warrior himself could not reign in the liberation theologists since they were entrenched in the Vatican and he had to fight a daily battle with them not just without but within as well.
It is for this reason that the U.S evangelicals who overwhelmingly supported Reagan are very suspicious of the Catholic church as they see it quite corrupt. Some even refer to it as the seat of Babylon ie head quarters of the anti Christ.
Sorry to burst your bubble all Christians don't march in tandem, The Shia vs Sunni disputes is nothing compared to Protestant vs Catholic which is doctrinal and sometimes even ethnic and it continues to this very day.
You are not talking to some idiot ignorant Vadakayil follower like yourself who has ZERO knowledge of other religions. I know Christianity,Judaism and Islam pretty well and you cant impress me with these comical pronouncements. Go to the captains blog and wash his feet with your saliva. Don't do it here, it is just thoroughly undignified.
Actually YSV you probably got it wrong.To be frank I have a weakness for the post dec 2012 Hindu resurrection theory :) but neither do I allow that to interfere with my analysis,nor do I use that as a tool to establish my point.This is why I supported Signor on this issue,but I did not say "Capt was right ".It is Signor and other Capt supporters who say this and I mocked them.You probably didn't get it.I am prettry sure many of them think that Capt has generated this prediction with his perception and knowledge :) LOL this theory existed way before Capt landed on the shores permanently after retirement.Yet Capt and his followers try to create the impression that everything said in Capt blog is solely his own production :) Now I will not furnish more examples on this for the sake of preventing digression from the main point, but,if challenged by any Capt supporter,I promise that I will surely retaliate :) . But what I said about the weak base of evolution theory is not solely based on the Hindu Nationalists' viewpoints that I have come in contact with.After extensive study on this I have come to the conclusion that probably scientists still accept evolution theory,despite many inconsistencies,only because a better biological theory has not been created.Ofcourse you cannot expect scientists to accept alien theory or Yuga theory in hinduism at this point of time ;) YSV the info you provided on catholic church and christianity was very good.
DeleteI did not mention about Theory of Evolution in my comment. That was deliberate. Like You I also do not believe it. I have made that comment to show that Captain is not fake as FOOL YSV want to propagate. Vatican has many ancient records in its library! And it is easy for the Pope to come into some definite conclusion! Surely it will take some more time. Provided if he continues there as POPE.
ReplyDeleteYes Signor I had noticed that you didnot mention evolution theory in your original comment.I mentioned the point in the context of the news article :).Anyway I agree with your overall observation on this.
DeleteThe captain is ,was and will remain a fool. And you as his follower signor are an even bigger fool!
DeleteThat Fool YSV.
ReplyDeleteSuppose Jam, a banished and excommunicated people rooted in Vedic philosophy wants to start a new world and to create their own GOD and ancestors and theory of creation then what will be the net result? Surely their God will recognize only them. They will be the chosen people. They will not admit other people into their religion. Their God will give them the right to rule the mankind. All people will be their servants. Think over it.
Ofcourse that will be so.But understand what YSV is trying to say.As of now there is NO direct evidence that Jews were from India.The linguistic and theological similarity between ancient vedanta and Judaism is not a proof for this.Ancient India had trade and cultural links with middle east,so you cannot uphold the above-mentioned similarity as proof.Even modern genetic evidence has made it tougher for "Jews in ancient India" hypothesis supporters to prove themselves,unless,ofcourse you take whatever Capt says as proof.I will be proud if,in the future,it is proved that Jews were Namboothiris from Kerala and I have already mentioned that,because I am a proud Indian and so are Namboothiris.But you are not paying heed to what YSV is saying.As of now there is no evidence to link Jews to Namboothiris of Kerala.I agree that Star of David is probably borrowed from Vedanta,but using facts like this to establish a whole new Jew-Kerala theory is just too much extended to meet ends.Cross-cultural links and mutual sharing of cultures was a reality in the ancient and medieval world history,so that cannot be used as a stand-alone proof for a whole new hypothesis.
DeleteSignor you might brand me a Deshdrohi,Christian convert etc. but still I would suggest you not to take whatever Capt says blindly.Capt instills a sense of hyper-patriotism among his readers,but blogging and mere commenting in blogs supporting hyper-inflated theories about India is NOT all of patriotism.It is a very small expression of patriotism at best..If you are a patriot,then take time out of your busy schedule to acquire knowledge about the great saints India had throughout its history.If possible,try to apply the knowledge in your life,that is patriotism,and that is how patriots arise,there is no shortcut route to patriotism like through blogging or writing a few comments etc.Reading Capt blog will give you a heavily filtered version of knowledge of one person in many deep topics.My first encounter with Vedanta and glorious India was in 6th standard when I started my reading journey with "The India Eternal" book by Swami Vivekananda.You can read this book.You will get a purer feeling of nationalism from a celibate monk by reading this book than you will ever get by reading the inflated blogposts of Capt. Since then I have read many books and articles from many scholars on related topics of spirituality.So when I say that you should not follow Capt blindly,I am not doing this out of contempt.As you have seen,I do not comment with authority on topics in which my knowledge is very limited or zero.But I have read some posts of Capt on which I have some knowledge.By following these posts I have understood that Capt tries to establish what he thinks to be true.He will outright distort facts to round up his theory,and I believe this is the sole reason why his blog is moderated and does not have open comment policy.So all that I am trying to point out is that Capt is not a reliable person when it comes to speculative blogging.You cannot trust a biased person for that.However I agree with some of what Capt says,especially much of his contemporary socio-political analysis and some other topics like Rabaul finding of Netaji ,Jayalalitha,Satyarthi Prakash etc.On a lighter note,I fully support his views that Vinod Kambli is a gem India has lost and his talent exceeded Tendulkar in his prime :).Similarly I agree with hims when he says Carlos Tevez is an underestimated genius striker :).These opinions of Capt show that he has a good analytical bent of mind when it comes to contemporary social issues.
DeleteJam, I am afraid that there is not much difference between you and Ysv. If you go on like this you are npt going to be a proud Indian, proud Christain, or a proud Moslem because your mind is shut. You dont want to know (1) Why there is inherent racism in Judaism (2) why there is much Compassion in Christainity (3) Why there is intolerance in Islam. Why it is so when all have Common origin? Why Judaism did not admit other people and why Christianity and Islam admit people on conditions? (4) what was original Sin? (5) Why Adam & Eve expelled from heaven for seemingly an innocuous offence (6) Why God forbade them to eat fruit of knowledge? (7) Why Christ sacrificed his life for the Sin of mankind (8) What was that Sin? Why Islam & Christianity admit people from other religion when Judaism does not?
DeleteForgive my ignorance but I really could not understand what the real point you have tried to make here.I want to know your viewpoint on all the eight questions.Please answer them .I will positively accept your opinion if I find it acceptable.Did I not stand by and support your 21st december 2012 point?Similarly I will always support Capt in issues I believe to be true,like vedic vimanas,nuclear power and advanced technologies in ancient India etc,not because supporting them is patriotic,open-minded and deshbhakti ,but because there are mentions of these in ancient Sanskrit texts including vedanta.This is the I have been trying to make all the time and you have still accused me of keeping my mind shut.Infact I was actually trying to tell you that you should see beyond Capt blog.I am not saying that your mind is shut,because I believe that you have good knowledge.But there is much more to be read and learnt in this vast world,which lies outside Capt blogs.Coming to my point,I have read plenty of printed literature and internet literature to keep my mind shut on anything.You should know this if you read my previous comments in this blog and in the other blog of YSV on Capt in october 2013.In that blog YSV and I were discussing on issues related to Netaji,Vivekananda.I am very passionate about both these two men( as all Bengalis are :) ),but I have accepted all the positive criticisms of YSV and tried to answer them with logic.Infact the discussions with YSV has forced me to study more on the topics and increased my awareness on some previously unexplored aspects.This is how an open mind works,I think.Now coming to Capt.I am again saying the same thing,i.e,he constructs his theories with so much inherent bias(obviously he calls them perception,joining the dots etc) that you should not take all that he says for granted.I can assure you will not be able to cultivate open mind by visiting Capt blog,because you will only get a single-axis approach to multifaceted topics.Even the comments by other readers will only favour his views,or else they will be rejected.So tell me how will my mind open up :) ?
DeleteA banished and excommunicated people from Vedic culture were later to become Zoroastrians. ANd traditionally they were NOT against converting people to their religion. It is only the modern day Parsees who are against conversion initially as a condition for the Gujarati king for giving them refuge in India and later 19th century notions of racism as they believed those of pure Iranian blood were superior to others.
DeleteEither way there is no anti conversion stance in Zoroastrian scriptures.
Another people who were excommunited from proper Vedic society were called Vratyas ie who were ethnically in the Vedic fold but refused to follow proper rites and rituals or angered some Brahmins.
For example the ancestors of Andhra were sons of Vishwamitra who were banished by him because they were disrespectful to Vishwamitras authority
Judaism also accepts converts but somewhat half heartedly. If it didn't Jewish Hollywood producers wouldn't be able to marrying those Waspish blonde women !
The rabbi is supposed to discourage the convert to Judaism three times specifying all the strict regulations and code of conduct expected of Jews
However in the past it was very much a religion which encouraged conversion. They used to routinely convert Romans, Egyptians and Phoenicians.
They converted a whole lot of Greeks and Arabs in the Jordan Valley after the Maccabees defeated the Seleucid puppet kings.
And the King Herod of the new Testament was a recent Arab convert himself.
And last but not least idiot, Vedic people were far more strict on conversion than anyone else. There is a reason why Brahmins were not allowed to travel beyond Bharatavarsha as they only had the authority to inititiate people in the Vedic fold.
Very often the backdoor to Hinduism was Buddhism where foreigners were allowed only due to Ashoka's missionary activities. Buddha himself was at best dubious on converting non Vedic peoples!
Only on rare occasions would Scythians and Greeks be converted.
And Huns/Gurjars were initially thoroughly rejected but they gained political power after being defeated in war , by backstabbing Harshavardhana and created the Rajput identity by coopting a few Brahmins by symbolically purifying them of their mlecccha background which is why they are called Agnikula Kshatriyas.
As for your claim that Christians and Muslims and Jews do not, what is your point. If Christians and Muslims convert people you complain they are aggressors and are taking advantage of Hindu weakness but if Jews don't convert apparently they are racist!
There is no pleasing these idiot Vadakayalites!
YSV what you have said in your last paragraph of the above comment pinpoints the problem of Capt supporters.They will not look at anything else beyond Capt blog and Capt logic,even to the level of perfect self-contradiction and bare hypocrisy.That is the world for them.Nowadays in this deep Kali Yuga you will rarely find such devotion :) .They choose to remain blind to everything else,do not feel the need to study more on the topics and consider themselves patriots and nationalists for behaving in such a way. The Capt is free to publish anything in his blog,but they consider it a privilege to accept and believe whatever he churns out.Anyone who opposes them is a coward,wolf in sheep's clothing,double agent etc etc.For the first time in my short life I am actually meeting people borrowing even the abuses and slangs of a single person and using them freely on others.Leaving rest aside,how can they feel proud of copying and using the dialogue or rather monologue of a single person at all places in serious discussions?It is simple childhood common-sense that you should actually avoid a person who is only ready to hear himself and not others.
DeleteYou cant get satisfying answers to these questions. But believe me there are answers to these questions. You will get it if you open your eyes! Wait I am not goingto tell anything unless I am damn sure about it! Meanwhile stick on with that fool!
ReplyDeleteSo far I am thoroughly unimpressed about:
Delete1. Your knowledge of Christianity
2.Your knowledge of Judaism
3. Understanding of Vedic history and knowledge of dieties
4. European and American history
5. The socio political climate of contemporary Catholicism
6. Estimation of patriotism of Japan and Russia
7. Knowledge of foreign languages
In other words you are big fat zero in pretty much anything you wish to make a point about. What is so comical is that with every attempt to cover your ignorance, you just keep exposing it some more but then that is the nature of the ignorant
I also studied in India- Kendriya Vidyalaya if you must know. The educational standards were utter nonsense and that was considered a good school. The history teachers there were little better than Vadakayil. I proud to say I did terribly as I had an independent mindset and was routinely beaten by teachers for asking inconvenient questions. hahaha Im guessing you never even had a decent argument with a half knowledgable person in your life.
Any objective person can testify to you constant humiliation on this comments board. My question to you , why do you bother, are you so lacking in shame and dignity?
LOL in other words you don't know the answers and were simply pulling "facts" out of your ass. You say you wont say anything until you know the facts when its obvious from all the garbage you typed that you do this on a knee jerk basis.
DeletePlease keep posting , the comedy never ends! hahahahaha
YSV, since your IQ level is too low you need to read thrice to understand what others realy meant! Have I nt read the Famous Pop singer Madonna joined into a sect of Judaism? Then what was my point? My point was a banished and excommunicated group when busily engaged in formulating new sets of ideals for obvious reasons need not necessarily feel the urgency to propagate their ideals when there is no external intellectual attack? You got it that fool. I have a request. When I post something dont go to google and search for details to contradict my opinion rather you apply your mind! Got it that fool? Your mind is full of whiteman's shit that accumulated there since your learning. I feel frequently that shit is spilling out in the form of outbursts. That is natural! Dont worry. When I finish with you you will be more respectable. Wait for more.
ReplyDeleteI don't think a borderline illiterate and possible retard like yourself is in any position to call anyone else low IQ. You have refuted exactly ZERO of my point by point counter argument of all your comical claims and then again you go around talking nonsense.
DeleteI don't know you know shit about Madonna and her dalliances with Judaism. It is obvious that you googled it right after I mentioned.
Also idiot she didn't convert but simply toyed around with a mystical belief system called Kabbalah. I don't recollect whether it was before or after her visit to Kashi and brief fling with Shaivism. In other words she never converted to any religion but simply wanted to sample all like a typical fool Hollywood celebrity.
As for making me respectable, thanks for the laugh. A follower of the captain making me respectable is like a young girl taking lessons in chastity from a prostitute!
I would like to remind you that the captain these days is requesting his followers to SPAM times of India and PM office website he himself is BANNED from those places. Hahaha you and the captain are a comedy act more than anything else.
LOL the Capt accuses Times of India for moderating his comments but he himself does that in his blog.So when he does moderation,it will be nation-building and patriotism,but poor TOI will not get a share of the same logic :) .By the way I am also not a fan of TOI but this was to point out the hypocrisy of Capt,which obviously trickles down to many of his fans as well.I have saved all my comments which I posted in Capt's blogs and he didnot get them published.If I reveal these comments here Capt supporters will understand how he avoids a debate to establish his point.
DeleteI am also not a fan of TOI or other "BENAAMI MEDIA" as he likes to call it. They only spread ignorance left and right and hostile to traditional Vedic culture.
DeleteBut that doesn't mean I should spam them left and right and when I get banned that it is some Zionist conspiracy.
What the captain is doing is very irresponsible and immoral. It is quite possible a fool bhakt of the captain will retweet something libelous as per the captians instructions and this chela will end up suffering the legal consequences if the target claims he was defamed! Has the captain learnt NOTHING from his Aamir Khan misadventure?
Ysv what wasyour point when you lectured about different sects of Christianity? Do you think that I am ignorant about that? Are there so many different sects even in India? Do One need to go to America to learn about these Sects? What was your point when u lectured about the picture "Exorcist"? To show that Catholicism is evolving with changing times? Fool! I bought a dvd of the same with subtitle in the year 2001 and seen it many times. Fool the current statement of Pope has only meaning "many generations had been fooled comprehensively and many more will be fooled again!" And there will always be fools like you to give a dramatic colour to the proclamation of cheating. Wait for more.
ReplyDelete"Ysv what wasyour point when you lectured about different sects of Christianity?"
DeleteIf I have to explain it to you, there is clearly no point since you wont understand it anyway.
" Do you think that I am ignorant about that?"
There is very little in the world you are NOT ignorant about Im afraid
"Are there so many different sects even in India?"
Yes there are quite a few but your level of intellectual curiosity is about zero being a captain follower so you will learn nothing.
" Do One need to go to America to learn about these Sects?"
No but it helps.But Im afraid you are beyond help.
"What was your point when u lectured about the picture "Exorcist"? To show that Catholicism is evolving with changing times? Fool! I bought a dvd of the same with subtitle in the year 2001 and seen it many times."
Then you are beyond stupid if you didn't any of those insights about Catholicism that I mentioned. It is another matter that I think you are a pathological liar and don't believe any claim you make.
"Fool the current statement of Pope has only meaning "many generations had been fooled comprehensively and many more will be fooled again!"
And say to you , that only fools like yourself can jump to this conclusion
" And there will always be fools like you to give a dramatic colour to the proclamation of cheating. Wait for more."
"dramatic color to the proclamation of cheating" ....Word of advice - if you realize your English is terrible, don't try to use fancy words and randomly jumble them together in order to seem sophisticated. You only look even stupider(if that is possible at this point)
Idiot! your logic is nothing but White man's shit spilling out of your head! Yes, I have not heard OF Madonna. I don't even know who is the PM of India. But surely I know my father's name. And I won't even doubt it even if a spelling is wrong in some documents. But now I know that in your case you will doubt your father if there is a spelling mistake in any of documents. Such is the effect of SHIT accumulated in your head! Idiot getting frenzy when confronted! Idiot no shame to tell false stories of women raped, killed, breasts chopped off etc,...etc... only to defame a religion! Has any of Captain's supporters ever told lies like that! My God how pathetic to know of such a man born out of White man's shit! Fool I told you to read thrice before you spill your shit! Did I ever say Madonna was converted to Judaism? I SAID SHE JOINED. For me Proclamation of POPE is nothing but an endorsement how they cheated generations after generations. Idiot now imagine how a tribal convert will feel if Pope says " yes it was our wrong that your ancestors are goaded to this religion by cheating and soaps". If your head is clear of shit please imagine!
ReplyDeleteSignor now you are plain trivialising the whole debate.If you cannot logically counter someone's argument there's no harm in admitting it.You can still hold on to your belief silently and proclaim them openly in places where you will not be logically countered.For example I believe that a new astrological era has probably started post 21st dec 2012 but I will not foolishly try to propagate and argue with others on this matter.I must say you are fumbling in the dark if you analyse YSV's exorcist movie point in this manner.Please revise YSV's comments,not for a moment has he defamed Hinduism.He is a proud Hindu and that is prominent in his comments but he will not accept any of Capt theories blindly.My suggestion or rather a request to you Signor is that,in the future you should not blame a person to be antagonistic just because he differs from you.That is the way in Capt blog but not the world outside it. When Capt supporters repeat his neo-Nazi logic that holocaust was fake and totally framed,you will not call it a lie.You guys will lamely spread FAKE Kalidasa,FAKE Radha,FAKE DASA charecters and countless other theories of Capt in different blogs without a question .Forget even branding it a lie,you will outright support it and spread it whereever possible.I am SHOUTING it out now in loud and clear voice so that you might get it : POPE is not an important figure and not even a consideration in our discussions till now.It is you who is trying to bring the POPE all the time into the debate.I accuse you of giving him a backdoor relevance in this blog :) Probably you are part of the Joshua project too Signor :) do not get me wrong but this is the broad outline of Capt's logic in a wide number of theories he has designed.
Deletesignor.I have no more desire to debate you as you are
Delete1) a pathological liar
2) terrible knee jerk and emotional debator
3) dishonest
4) ignorant
5) egotistical
I could deal with someone who had 3 out of this 5 negative qualities but all 5 is just hopeless.
You keep shifting goal posts and keep changing definition of words as per your convenience when your are caught in your ignorance
(Joining a religion is not converting...are you for real!)
I already explained my self re treatment of Kerala low castes. That despite everything that is the only ammunition you have against me says a lot more about your grasping at straws than my alleged attempts at historical revisionism
When are ready to write something sensible and not some recycled crap from the captain , I will respond.
But if you don't refrain from your usual garbage I will only engage in abuse!
Thanks JAM for your support. But this signor is hopeless -ignorant, stubborn like a donkey and dishonest as you can see. Just disengage.
DeleteHe only deserves abuse
Tell me Jam what was the exorcist point? we can debate point by point.
ReplyDeleteWell as you challenged me I am quoting the whole part of YSV :
Delete'One of the major sub themes of the movies was that the Church was too embarrassed of its "religiosity" and too corrupted by wordily morals. We see priests hanging out with the literati, politicians and film makers at cocktail parties imbibing their secular values along with copious amounts of alcohol.
We see Catholic establishment shying away from exorcism as a solution for what is evidentially a demonic possessed child and suggesting medical and psychiatric treatment.
Indeed the main character is a psychiatrist for the Georgetown priests himself. So overwhelmingly has the Catholic church surrendered to the therapeutic and worldly culture of secular society rather than seeing the tragic, evil and fallen nature of man as their theology mandates
The current pope who followed the conservative Benedict was a liberation theologist which is really a socialist masquerading as a Catholic."
YSV has analysed the degradation of austerity setting in catholic church due to modern-day influences.You should read "Father Sergius" novel by Leo Tolstoy to understand how tough penances Catholic Church priests used to undertake in the past.But I am not a fan of Tolstoy,rather I disliked his style.this novel is relevant to what we are discussing at present.To his analysis of exorcist movie,which was part of a broader point he has tried to make,your response is this :
"What was your point when u lectured about the picture "Exorcist"? To show that Catholicism is evolving with changing times? Fool! I bought a dvd of the same with subtitle in the year 2001 and seen it many times."
You can always debate the movie criticism of a person,but if you bring this kind of logic to a healthy criticism of a movie in a good movie critic forum,you post will get vandalised ;) and by the way you have already missed the broader point in his statement when you analyse the post by taking up the parts interlinked parts individually.
So this is Your analysis "YSV has analysed the degradation of austerity setting in catholic church due to modern-day influences". I put it in simple words that Catholic church is evolving (progressing) with changing times (demand less observance of austerity). Am I correct.
ReplyDelete"What was your point when u lectured about the picture "Exorcist"? To show that Catholicism is evolving with changing times? Fool! I bought a dvd of the same with subtitle in the year 2001 and seen it many times."
ReplyDeleteSo please clarify to me whether you are endorsing or oposing YSV on this.I thought you were opposing whatever he is saying :) .because franklly your original comment seemed to be antagonistic to YSV but your second view "I put it in simple words that Catholic church is evolving (progressing) with changing times (demand less observance of austerity)" tells a opposite story.Please clarify yourself more on this.I am probably misunderstanding your view.But these can happen in a debate.
The problem with YSV is that he will lecture about something by presenting whatever he learned or copied from some where else. He then solely declares his victory by abusing others! If some one confronts him he will say "Your Captain also does the same". This is just like the debates what we usually see in TV channels. Actually I wanted to say that there are real attempts as an institution within the Church to conform with progressive ideas. I switched to an attacking mode only when he abused me. Having said that let me clarify that as an existing institution the Church is bound to conform with progressive ideas. But the defect lies in the inception ( not that of the Church) but with Judaism. Since both share a common theory of creation and common ancestors every attempt to wriggle out will always lead in to deep trouble. That was the reason to make the statement " the proclamation of the Pope is nothing but an admission that how generations after generations are fooled comprehensively".
ReplyDeleteYou are confusing with the captain who lifts his garbage from PN Oak , neo Nazi websites and pseudo scientific Vedas as quantum theory blogs.
DeleteOTOH I don't create facts or pull them out of my ass like you do. Of course I didn't create this knowledge but it came from more than a decade of learning -am glad to say from sources as far away from the captains sources as possible!
When I said Judaism did not permit others in its fold, immediately he searched and presented so many historical incidents where other people were converted into Judaism. But what is the point here? Every one knows as a policy Jews did not permit others. Since it has thousands of years existence naturally at different points of time many people might have been admitted. But when we inspect the old testament (Hebrew Bible) it is evident that they are the special people for the God. This is just another case where austerity losing with changing times. If you have no problem please convey your concept regarding the SIN for which Jesus sacrificed his life.
ReplyDeletesignor unlike you I actually read books yes before there was an internet. So I do not need to google anything here.
Delete90% of the stuff I write here is from memory and not google. Whether you believe it or not, I really don't give a shit as I don't respect you.
Jews unlike Christians and Muslims did not have a missionary policy but they did accept people who came to them. Therein lies the difference.
At one time ,Judaism was very attractive to all sections of society and it was estimated that between 10-25% (exact figures are hard to comeby) of the Roman Empire at its height was Jewish.
And btw Jews don't believe they have a special line to god because they are special for the heck of it.
They are considered dear to God because of the Laws of Noah which were meant of non Jews which was rather lax compared to the laws of Moses which demanded a very strict code and others could not abide by it.
And since you are historically ignorant, just FYI by Middle Eastern standards,ancient Jews were very civilized as apart from the Canaanite conquest, they forbade the raping of captive women and treating slaves cruelly. Compare this to Egypt ,Babylon and Assyria who were positively monstrous. To say nothing of Greece and Rome!
I would also like to have your view on the SIN for which Jesus died.I do not hold any particular view on this.But what little knowledge I have on it is that it has both esoteric and worldly angles to it.The esoteric view comes from the Bible,where Jesus had to die for the SIN of all mankind.His death and sacrifice has paved the way for mankind to reach God.Now do not accuse me of spreading the Bible Signor,as you have previously done,though I have deep respect and love for Jesus even being a Hindu.I admire him for the qualities he embodied.The worldly view blames Zionism and Jews for Jesus death,and the Jews inturn blame Romans for it.As far as I know,this is the reason many christians consider Antichrist of the future to arise from Zionists.But here it must be mentioned that New Testament and Talmud mentioned Jews for the killing of Jesus.But it must also be mentioned that neither New Testament nor Talmud are considered to be complete historical documents.There is even a theory that actually makes New Testament for the Holocaust.I am not endorsing any particular viewpoint on this topic,as frankly,I do not find a need to give a opinion on this.This is also because I have only passing knowledge of this.I would also like to know YSV's opinion of this,as he has studied theology more than me.
ReplyDeleteMaking sense of Christianity for me is still very difficult as it is very unique theology which occurred in a very unreceptive place- a "son of God" in strictly monotheistic land!
DeleteFirst let us try to make sense of his birth which was from a virgin. Of course in Hinduism too we have a similar birth where Kunti "invoked" gods Surya, Yama, Indra,Vayu to give birth to Karna, Yudhishtara,Arjuna, Bhima respectively . Of course Madri through Ashwins yielded Nakula and Sahadeva
So it is possible that Mary had undergone similar penance and invoked the Hebrew mantras to invoke the holy Spirit or Gabriel which can be mapped to our Varuna to become pregnant with Jesus.
Now Jesus was a rather precocious child. In some books which were edited out of the Bible, they show him as a naughty 7 year old brat who would kill his friends out of anger only to bring him back to life when everyone accused him of murder!
Also the period of his absence has nothing to do with Kerala LOL but most likely the Sinai peninsula which was the no mans land for mystics. And again later we see hints of siddhi type behavior with his 40 day fasts in the desert and raising people from the dead.
Jesus as "son of God" simply was using Greek terminology and imagery as the area was very much influenced by Greeks since Alexanders invasion in 300 BC and later Romans who also imposed Greek culture.
It is no coincidence that the New Testament was in Greek. But all that aside, he wanted his Kingdom of God for Jews only. When he was requested to exorcize a woman from a Phoenician tribe , he dismissed her as belonging to a "Race of dogs" but eventually he yielded and cast out the demons.
This was later extended by St Paul to all non Jews. Though by Jewish standards ,this was anthema.
Before anti Semites like signor and the captain get too excited, let me inform them that us Vedic people were not into converting others except in rare circumstances. Which is why Brahmins were forbidden from crossing seas or traversing the borders of Bharatavarsha.
We considered a good chunk of middle easterners and central Asians as "mlecchas" or barbarians trying to fraudulently enter Vedic society.
"sin" in this context may just mean deranged and chaotic chi or prana circuits due to immoral behavior. By propitiating Jesus the proper way, one could cleanse oneself of sin and enter the Kingdom of Heaven.
As for the crucifixion , the torture and the cross actually may unblocked some energy channels(Indra destroying dams) and made it easy for him to die and resurrect.
Similarly even today people can achieve kundalini by being in violent car accidents or sometime even child birth.
As for the political aspect, look its very straightforward. The Jewish priests and elites were considered traitors and agents of Rome by the common Jews who hated them. Even so it was the custom of Jewish law to stone to death people to say they were Equal of Yahweh. Why make an exception for Jesus? Actually common Jews wanted to make an exception because he was rather popular for his miraculous acts.
The entrenched elites saw him as a threat to their cushy lifestyle and handed him over to the Romans as only they had the ability to inflict capital punishment. Which is why he was crucified , if he was condemned directly by Jewish authorities, he would be stoned to death.