Reminder : Hindutva firebrand Rajeev Srinivasan defended feudal pedophilia and rape in U.S
Rajeev Srinivasan is a noted and accomplished writer on Innovation and technology given his impressive background from IIT Madras and Silicon Valley. He is also quite anti American, a heavy breathing hyper patriot with overflowing love for Bharatmata and has been spewing venom against any thing American since the mid 1990s. Also he has been residing in San Francisco since then and shows no sign of leaving. But that is too easy , lets leave that for now.
What is interesting was defense of Lakireddy Balireddy in early 2000. A respected entrepreneur in Berkeley(a restauranteur and the largest land owner in the area apart from the University of California) who was convicted of raping and killing an underage girl who kept under lock and chain in an apartment where she suffered untold number of horrors.
Mr. Srinivasans first and immediate response was to chastise those Indian Americans who condemned Balireddy as sellouts who wish to grovel to the white man.
Even as Lakireddy Balireddy confessed to the crimes as part of a plea bargain, all Srinivasan stated in a genteel manner was this.
What was particularly disturbing was when there was no way for him to demean Indian Americans who were revolted and demonized the "white" law enforcement who threw the book at him, he attempted to massage the narrative in this manner
There is also the disturbing thought that these girls may indeed have been 'sold' willingly to Lakireddy -- maybe, being dirt-poor, their alternative would have been to be sold off into Mumbai's red-light district, Kamathipura. The rediff.com series on Lakireddy's home district brings out the fact that he is a man of substance on home turf. Perhaps in the feudal mindset of the villagers there, offering a young girl to him was a proper and economically rational thing to do? Who knows?
Got that? In other words, never mind the fact that he drugged, raped and killed an underage girl. Why back home they think he is number since he did so many good things like create a really crappy diploma mill of an engineering college. And in gratitude, the villagers offered him a helpless young girl as a token of appreciation. Who was he to say no.If he did, god forbid they would end up as prostitutes in Mumbai .( Apparently those are their only two options)
Those wicked whites and their notions of gender equality, individual rights and liberties and concern for minors are a real impediment to the good works of tthis hapless gentleman who trying to provide employment to nubile teenage girls in the land of opportunity. It is not his fault they have no other skills besides sex!
And then follows it up with this gem
But at the end of the day, I fear there is an element of "Whatever will the Americans think of us model-minority Indian-Americans? We must denounce this man just in case the Americans think we are all sex-criminals. See, we are not like him." Fie on that sentiment, I say! Let us worry about the reality, not what someone else may think.
Actually Rajeev you must denounce because he IS a sex criminal and that is the right thing to do. You like Vadakayil in claiming to not give a crap about the white mans views on India are simply projecting and seem to be obsessed with the opinions of white Americans and interject them where they are least bothered. Rather than finding common ground between Indian Americans and the larger majority in improving society by removing a criminal element, Rajeev wants to go the black and OJ Simpson route by defending an obvious evil simply to stick it to the white man.
This is why extreme nationalism is dangerous and amoral: in the name of race, culture ,ethnicity and other determinants of a nation, people are willing to defend, rationalize and justify all sorts of evils just to spite the world
How this is any different from Muslims supporting suicide bombings, female genital mutilations, marital rape, shariah law among other regressive customs is beyond me.
Unlike Hindutvadis, I dont see the wisdom of creating our Taliban to counter theirs. But then again we dont counter theirs do we. Say what you want about Muslim radicals ,at least they are willing to go to foreign countries, face danger and fight their causes no matter how wicked they may be.
So do Christian citizens from Europe and U.S who went to fight ISIS in Iraq
Meanwhile number of Hindutvadis who went to fight
1) Taliban in neighboring Afghanistan ,Pakistan=0
2) Al Qaeda in neighboring Afghanistan=0
3) Al Qaeda in Iraq=0
4) ISIS in Iraq=0
5) Sinhala Buddhist thugs in Sri Lanka=0
6) Burma where Hindus were disenfranchised and looted=0
7) Bhutan which ethnically cleansed over 50000 Hindus=0
I could go on but it wouldnt make any differences as Hindutvadis lack any kind of shame or dignity.
Or dont they? The arm chair psychologist in me thinks that Hindutvadis are ashamed of their impotency and lack of stature abroad and engaging in feudal backward customs are a form of self sabotage.
It is not just Rajeev Srinivasan. I came across a few more American Hindutvadis who carry an intense dislike for America and run down American/Western ethos, culture and religion whilst holding American passports themselves, like Rajiv Malhotra. If they're NRIs who don't hold American passports, their kids surely do, like Shefali Vaidya.
ReplyDeleteDespite Hindutvadis not indulging in any such foreign wars, VHP and Bajrang Dal surely managed to make it to CIA's blacklist. A clear message that Trump's America is not a joke.
Will he come after American Hindutvadis next?
I doubt Rajiv Malhotra dislikes American culture . I think the only one he dislikes is Sheldon Pollock lol. I think he doesn't want a few foreign players/universities to control the narrative around indian history/languages. Then again Dr Siva Ayyadurai also wanted to cancel Harvard's Tamil Chair(a right decision imo even though i am not Tamil).
Delete"Will he come after American Hindutvadis next?" --- The stage is set along with Thomson's Reuters "perception" poll for india being most dangerous place for women. Be prepared for more gender-biased laws and more "surveys" pre-elections 2019.
I tried reading and listening to Sheldon Pollock as am interesting in listening to contrarian opinions. Anyway most of his opinions dont involve Hindu revivalism or contemporary politics but Sanskrit poetry and aesthetics. But good god the guy rambles on and on with getting to a point. He is just simply an awful communicator of ideas. I was very much interested in his book on aesthetics and I couldnt get beyond 3 or 4 pages. The writing was so self indulgent and loopy.
DeleteThomsons Reuters poll didnt even spare U.S.
Rajiv Malhotra's Breaking India is a ridiculous book full of unsubstantiated claims. Like most Hindutvadis he does not at all understand Tamil culture and its ideas of nationslism, religion and secularism. This is why Hindutvadis can make ridiculous claims that Tamil culture is Marxist and Christianized(how can it be both?) and Eelam Tamil movement is controlled by the Catholic Church.
Even Subramaniam Swamy claims some stupid shit about LTTE being supported by "the West". Whenever someone used the West as a monolith which Hindutvadis often do, I know I am dealing with an ignoramus.
Kalavai Venkat is another one of these idiots who bashes the Christian West specifically America while reaping its fruits.
DeleteWhat do you mean by CIA's "blacklist". I doubt too many people outside India care about Bajrang Dal or VHP.
Respected Sir,
DeleteMy deepest apologies, I should have said CIA's "watch list", not "blacklist". Here is that article:
https://indianexpress.com/article/india/cia-names-vhp-bajrang-dal-as-religious-militant-organisations-in-world-factbook-5218249/
Not many people outside India care for VHP or Bajrang Dal. And those who do are usually involved in keyboard heroism.
I completely forgot about Kalavai Venkat. Yes, he is another nutcase.
As for Rajiv Malhotra, that is another "I told you so" moment (or "broken clock" moment, if you wish) for me. Sir I remember you pointed out his book and told me what he wrote in it about my state. Not that I ever cared for him, I do not even care for my state now, but I could not resist pointing it out.
Is it not possible for a people to be Christian and Communist? Isn't Venezuela a failed Marxist Christian Bolivarian Republic, for instance?
The dynamics of Eelam is a long story which I do not want to enter for now. Subramanian Swamy and gang only spread more ignorance on that issue.
As for Subramanian Swamy, yet another "I told you so"/"Broken clock" moment for me, there is a saying in Tamil: A drunkard's promise stands only as long as his hangover. After he gets out of his hangover, he will not remember what he promised when he was drunk. Swamy will say something in year X, he will say something else in year Y, and so on. On top of that, he has a dubious record of slandering and defaming people whom he perceives to be his enemies. Ram Jethmalani even sued him for 5 lac Rupees.
https://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/swamy-ordered-to-pay-compensation/article3234873.ece
https://indiankanoon.org/doc/567707/
LTTE was not supported by the West. If anything, America provided help to Sri Lanka to thwart LTTE in 2009 for the Hambantota port (which Sri Lanka eventually gave to China). LTTE smuggled arms from Russia and Central Asia. Prabhakaran was a Marxist who proclaimed that god did not exist till his death. In a way Sri Lankan Tamils were lucky they did not get another Fidel Castro/Che Guevara, Mao Zedong, Josef Stalin or Pol Pot as their leader. They were/are stuck between the devil and the deep sea. Long story short: Eelam had plenty of organizations who had a strategy against Sinhalese chauvinism. Prabhakaran being the self-centered idiot that he was, killed them all and isolated himself. But this is a long story for another day.
Thanks.
Some European groups tried to reconcile Christianity with Marxism and partially succeeded as socialism is a matter of faith even for the few remaining adherents in Europe. While in America, the mainline Protestant and Catholic denominations like socialism due to its alleged concern for the poor which gels well with Christian doctrine.
DeleteOTOH evangelicals interpret Christianity as a form of self reliance and urge free markets and capitalism. They see socials as the form of atheism
Which brings us to Prabhakaran and LTTE. It is true the earlier Tigers were Marxist as were most guerilla movements of the 1970s including the PLO, Basques and even Irish "catholic" Republicans but they were not international Marxists but nationalists obviously. And Tamil nationalism in interwoven with religion which at one point attempted to thoroughly differentiate itself from Northern Hinduism . Nonetheless it is still a religion with its myths, symbols and rituals.
These were incorporated into the LTTE as well as the cult of martyrdom which is a combination of Christian sacrifice and Tamil notions of heroism.
Hence the decision to bury rather than cremate members because
A) Burying was no issue for Dravidian civilization
B) Gravestones are more tangible and useful for propaganda purposes
Hence the synergy between Chritianity and Tamil culture as a good number of Tamils were Christians and their culture had to be interwoven into the Tamil nationalists movements. TO be sure in the beginning there were Muslims also in the LTTE and other Tamil nationalist movements but there is a different between Tamil Muslims of India and those of Sri Lanka. Sri Lanka's peculiar classification system deals not so much with ethnicity but religion. Hence Tamils are associated with Hinduism, Sinhalas with Buddhism. Christians as per Sinhala mindset are "stateless" as in not associated overwhelmingly with a particular ethnic group hence to be distrusted. Muslims considered themselves a people who speak Tamil but not Tamil ethnically. To an Indian Tamil this is nonsense but thats how it goes in SL.
Anyhow the level of hatred between Sinhalas and Tamils is just incredible. I doubt there can be any reconciliation whatsoever in the near future.
Kaplan explained SInhalas propensity towards cruelty and genocidal tendencies due to they being a majority but acting like a minority. In other words they are a majority in SL but due to the history of Tamil invasions from the north not to mention the larger Tamil population on the mainland, their survival instincts are in overdrive which leads to hyper natioanalism due to their homogeniety and their clearly defined identity
Indians could not acquire such a survival instinct so far because they dont have such an identity as it is a bunch of nations thrown together , not yet moving in the same direction all sharing different national myths and origin stories.
Yes, LTTE had plenty of Christians but the majority were Hindus. Some Hindus like Charles Anthony even had Christian names to honor their fallen comrades. But as I said earlier, they were self-centered and killed off rival Eelam groups that had some sort of strategy to counter Sinhalese aggression. This is a long story. People like Siri Sabarathnam of TELO and K Padmanabha of EPRLF had better and long-term strategies, but LTTE were bloodthirsty and greedy, and to top it all, had no strategy.
DeleteI can understand if the Sinhalese were militant in the past due to Tamil invasions, but why continue to persecute a people who are disarmed today? That makes no sense to me. Now they're after Moors/Muslims.
Muslims of Sri Lanka had their own identity (they call their language Arwi) but were closer to Tamils. The Sinhalese played the smart game of divide and rule to get the Muslims to their side in the early 1980s.
Though Christians are considered stateless, there are a good number of Sinhalese Christians. Former Sri Lankan President Junius Richard Jayawardena was a Christian turned Theravada Buddhist. There are also Christian cricket players. Sri Lanka has an awkward system of classification.
India can be channelized if New Delhi becomes more like Canberra and India becomes more like Australia, where each state has considerable say in its own affairs except foreign policy and defense.
Back then there were a lot of Tamil groups with their own agenda . They too were armed and violent. LTTE simply was the most successful of them all and it was better for Tamils to have a united voice.
DeletePrabhakaran became increasinly neurotic and paranoid since his isolation due to the foolish and destructive decision of assasinating Rajiv Gandhi.
With one swoop, he lost the support of the international community and that set in motion a slow but steady process of Sinhala victory. After Karunas defection in 2004 followed by the tsunami which did considerable damage to LTTE infrastructure , it was game over. This was realized only in 2009
From what I heard, other groups were more or less open to communicate with each other and even with LTTE, since Sri Lanka was strongly positioned with US support in the 1980s. LTTE went haywire with heavy funding from Tamil Nadu Chief Minister MGR.
Deletehttp://expressindia.indianexpress.com/news/fullstory.php?newsid=27903
Prabhakaran was a psycho from the beginning. He lusted for Urmila, wife of Uma Maheshwaran (who founded LTTE in 1976, Prabhakaran was just a commander back then) and even killed Uma Maheshwaran later.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzafJiHAr0s
As for Rajiv Malhotra, that is another "I told you so" moment (or "broken clock" moment, if you wish) for me. Sir I remember you pointed out his book and told me what he wrote in it about my state. "
DeleteWait a minute, I never quoted Rajiv Malhotra approvingly on anything. If I criticized TN, it was certainly not the basis of what he said. I criticized DMK undermining Tamil culture and promoting atheism. But I didnt use Malhotras ideas. I always was wary of Malhotras superficial understanding of Indian history and contemporary culture.
Sir I meant this comment:
Deletehttp://empiresoflight.blogspot.com/2014/12/why-are-our-super-patriots-so-insecure.html?showComment=1424866999782#c7736214559891043080
As usual, due to my hazy memory, I didn't word it properly.
Subramaniam Swamy did stellar work on the economy and help usher in the tech revolution in India when he advised Rajiv Gandhi and later helped open up Indias economy under Rao for which he should be credited. Since he has surrendered his mental faculties to the BJP, it has been downhill ever since. Pretty much all renowned intellectuals such as Raghuram Rajan etc are fleeing the administration apart from him.
ReplyDeleteI feel Swamy was good when he was younger. He always had inconsistent thoughts politically. If he had remained out of politics, he wouldn't be so panned as he is today. Yes, he advised Rajiv Gandhi and also helped PVN Rao, but he is kind of, I do not know how to describe this, self-centered. Now he has started attacking BJP leaders.
Deletehttps://www.thequint.com/videos/news-videos/our-ministers-know-nothing-about-economics-subramanian-swamy
He is a good adviser in economics but a very bad politician.
To what I know: Raghuram Rajan, Arvind Panagariya and Arvind Subramanian have left. I do not know who else has left.
More details on Christian Hindu synergy of Tamil martyrdom here
ReplyDeletehttps://www.yarl.com/forum3/topic/77999-the-concept-of-martyrdom-of-the-ltte/
AN excerpt:
here is a "movement", then, in the life of a martyr that passes throughtotal humiliation and dehumanisation but ends up in elevation, grades of apotheosis andrecognition. This "movement", seen from a global point of view, follows awellknown pattern that we know from rites of marginalisation. We could say that the lifeof a martyr follows the pattern of a rite of marginalisation in which especiallyhumiliation and submission to death are stressed (but ending nevertheless in elevation).The process of martyrdom repeats the same pattern as baptism or an initiation rite. Incertain trends of Judaism and Christianity, this stressing of submission became apermanent and dominant feature and constituted these religions as "religions ofmartyrdom".
If we apply this normative pattern of maximum competence for a martyr, we find that theLTTE martyr is not fully competent. Regarding item 2, most LTTE fighters die in battle,but there are also cases of torture and executions. The main deviation from the pattern isitem 3 stipulating that the martyr has not used violence. The Muslim martyr, the shahid,also falls short here, and so does the mediaeval Christian martyr who dies with hissword in his hands.
Item 6 has to be clarified. The concept of redemption in the LTTE does not refer tosins committed by individuals or by the community against God earlier in life or inhistory; it refers to the killing of enemies. The blood that has been spilled by the LTTEmartyr for the holy aim redeems the killing of the enemy. This is made explicit in asecret ritual performed by the LTTE over the corpse of a martyr.
Instead of rigidly applying a JewishChristian normative pattern, which is provoked bythe LTTE's own reference to the Jewish Christian term "martyr", we should, ofcourse, look for an indigenous Indian interpretative pattern, and we find it in theconcept of tiyakam (see below). According to this pattern, the LTTE is indeed fullycompetent. The problem is that the LTTE does not stick to one term alone. There are thusseveral ideas crossing each other, sometimes in the same text.
In the sacrificial ideology of the LTTE the following terms, demonstrating itscomplexity, are highly frequent:
•arppan,ippu, "sacrifice",
•pali, "sacrifice",
•virar, "hero", viram, 'heroism",
•maravar' 'warrior",
•maram' 'valour",
•tiyaki, "one who abandons",
•tiyakam, "abandonment",
•catci, "witness", "martyr",
•"martyr"( English)
The word arppanippu (alternatively arppanam or arppanam) comes fromSanskrit arpana. We have translated it with "sacrifice". It can also mean"dedication", referring to the sacrifice that is dedicated to a god. The wordalso belongs to a secular context, to the dedication of a book. It does, however,originally belong to a religious ritual context, to the libation offered to the god in thetemple or to any gift presented to the god. We have the word tevarppanam, "offeringthat is acceptable to gods''. Arppi, "to offer", could include the totality of ahuman as expressed in the Tamil composite ivvutampai unakkarpanam akkinen, "Ihave sacrificed this body to you". In the context of the LTTE this sacrifice becomesa sacrifice for the realisation of Tamililam.
DeleteFYI for those who didnt already perceive- the words tiyakam and catci are Tamilized versions of Tyagi and Sakshi.
Though no one in north India uses words like Tyagi anymore, even Hindutva guys go with Shaheed to describe martyrs who died in wars again Islamic armies or others.
also "pali" from Bali
DeleteInteresting...even with their Christian influences, LTTE seemed to be far more Hindu than our friendly neighborhood Hindutvadis.
DeleteShaheed is used by Sikhs. Maybe that's why Hindutvadis also use Shaheed?
There was only one person from the LTTE who was truly worth respect: Anton Balasingham. Their chief negotiator. He was a Christian but his background was Sri Lankan Tamil Saiva Vellalar. After his death in late 2006, they lost all their marbles.
Addendum:
DeleteFor all their flaws, I actually respect Sri Lankan Tamils (though they were/are incredibly stupid) who at least fought for their rights far more than Indian Tamils (who are even more stupid) who basically resort to sentimental blackmailing, threatening (empty is another story) and holier-than-thou acts against India on May 18 every year.
Ironically Hindutvadis in Tamil Nadu also joined Tamil nationalist and casteist groups in shedding tears for the fallen Tamils in Sri Lanka on May 18 last year. They had partisan motivations but that is for later. One of them even went overboard saying 85% of the victims of Sinhalese aggression were Tamil Hindus. These were the same people who were AWOL at best and pro Sri Lanka/Sinhalese at worst, when it mattered the most!
Sikhs use a lot of Persian and Arabic terms in their religion as Punjab was Muslim control since the 8th century and didnt see any Dharmic revival until the Sikhs in the late 18th century.
DeleteSitaram Goel the late Hindu revivalist was very fond of Urdu and referred to Bhagat Singh as "Shaheed e azam" . This piqued my curiosity and it turns out the language divide of the Gangetic Hindus and Muslims into Hindi and Urdu respectively is recent and artificial. Arya Samaj and other Hindu militant groups used to publish their anti Muslim tracts in Urdu.
Delete"Ironically Hindutvadis in Tamil Nadu also joined Tamil nationalist and casteist groups in shedding tears for the fallen Tamils in Sri Lanka on May 18 last year. They had partisan motivations but that is for later. One of them even went overboard saying 85% of the victims of Sinhalese aggression were Tamil Hindus. These were the same people who were AWOL at best and pro Sri Lanka/Sinhalese at worst, when it mattered the most!"
I was somewhat lukewarm and indifferent to the fate of the LTTE until May 2009. I had been a major supporter of theirs before but their wanton brutality turned me off. So I thought in May 2009 with their defeat, this bloody chapter in South Asian history can be closed and hope reconciliation can begin but then I became incredibly anti Sinhala to the extant that I wish for a revival of the LTTE or some other Tamil group to wreck havoc again. Why is that you may ask? Well it is the utterly revolting and disgusting triumphalism they engage in and continue to do. Stripping female soldiers naked, raping them and filming it. Perhaps Prabhakarans daughter met the same fate. And his son who was a minor was simply slaughered for no reason whatsoever. For those who say well thats a part of war, ok I get that. But here is the difference, unlike most conventional terror groups, Tamils saw the writing on the wall and voluntarily surrendered from the top down in the first week of 2009.
Furthermore LTTE had a strict ban on rape and humiliation of captives. This made it unique amongst guerilla movements and other "terror" groups.
So the argument does not hold that Sinhalas were repaying Tamils for past deeds.
And they continue to persecute,humiliate and degrade Tamils and SL Muslims who were on the Sinhala side. Sinhalas are overcome with a sense of rage, euphoria ,paranoia, xenophobia and toxic hate against anyone who is not them. I am more than happy to repay them in kind. If tommorow any militant group arises against SL, I will more than happy to make a financial contribution.
As of now, I dont even mind extermination of the Sinhala race. It is not rational I realize, but that is how I feel.
YSV
DeleteIt seems much of the divides being created nowadays are somewhat artificial.ofcourse unless u divide,u cant polarise to ur advantage either. one of my friends from UP tells me that in the ground level,most hindi speaking hindus of UP often use urdu words in place of hindi.both the languages are considered to be complementary to each other,and not conflicting . by and large,the people on ground dont care for such silly things like hindi-urdu divide.ofcourse when politicians like akhilesh go on the path of extreme minority appeasement,things get heated up.
JAM,
DeleteI hate to sound like a secularist but it seems in the Deccan and Bengal there was certainly a composite culture of Hinduism and Islam fostered by the Islamic ruling elite. They incorporated so much Hindu culture that the proto Salafists claimed that Muslim rulers might as well be Hindu.
Unlike the north with Hindu women and Muslim men, marriage was not a one way street. But Hindus men married Muslim women routinely where the women either converted to Hinduism or was left with her faith even as the children were raised Hindu.
I myself am a descendent of one of these unions of a Telugu Niyogi governer and a Persian woman haha. As you noticed I am neither Persian speaking nor Muslim :)
This brings to the hysteria of love jihad etc. In Bengal as well, Muslim women marry Hindu men with not much issue.
Same in Kerala.
Western secularists such as Richard Eaton and William Dalrymple tend to emphasize pre modern India as a dynamic , exuberant and open minded civilization where upward social mobility wasnt unknown as it was usually dependent on success in warfare or trade as was the custom in the Deccan. where Indian secularists insist that it was always a casteist, oppressive, misogynist society which needed Islam to liberate it(LOL)
"I myself am a descendent of one of these unions of a Telugu Niyogi governer and a Persian woman haha. As you noticed I am neither Persian speaking nor Muslim " -- ysv, you just told about your part persian ancestry. Wouldn't this make you some kind of "crypto-jew" :P :P ? Captain and his followers think that any person with light eyes or caucasian features in the subcontinent is some kind of crypto jew. I wonder what will he say if he sees the Kalash/Nuristanis
Delete"This brings to the hysteria of love jihad etc. In Bengal as well, Muslim women marry Hindu men with not much issue." -- JAM might better answer this :/ . Btw, JAM, is Momo-ta didi really handing out aadhar cards to illegal bangladeshi immigrants for 3.5 k INR :) :/ ?
Delete- ysv, you just told about your part persian ancestry. Wouldn't this make you some kind of "crypto-jew" :P :P ? Captain and his followers think that any person with light eyes or caucasian features in the subcontinent is some kind of crypto jew. I wonder what will he say if he sees the Kalash/Nuristanis"
DeleteLOL, the captains ignorance is simply out of control. Jews were a mixed bag when it came to physical anthropology, there were some redheads and brown haired folk but for the most part they were tanned olive complexion with dark hair and dark eyes not unlike many native people of India.
Ashkenazim Jews in the West and Israel have lighter features due to centuries of inter marriage with Europeans.
But Mizrahi and Sephardim Jews complexion and features arent that different from Gujarati or Rajasthani upper castes.
https://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-others/love-jihad-gets-a-bengal-reply-bahu-lao-beti-bachao-purify-muslim-brides/
DeleteOver two months, The Indian Express travelled through South 24 Parganas, North 24 Parganas, Murshidabad, Howrah and Birbhum — the rise of the BJP in these areas has coincided with the spread of this campaign — and met several couples who openly credit the Hindu groups for their marriage.
VHP leader Badal Das, who is in charge of his organisation’s role in the campaign, estimates that at least 500 Muslim and Christian women have “become Hindus through marriage” in the last one year.
All women have adopted Hindu names and their families have been “advised” to join the BJP for their “own safety”......
Indian Express is correct to put "own safety" in quotes. A Muslim joining VHP or BJP for "safety" is like a shopkeeper paying gangster monthly dues for "safety"
Im all for ghar vapasi but I dont care for these gangster tactics.
I wonder what will he say if he sees the Kalash/Nuristanis"
DeleteCaptain has not even spared Coorgis(Kodavas) whose esteemed generals such as Cariappa and Thimayya he accused of being double agents(on account of their "Foreign dna") and he compared them unfavorably to Keralas son VK Menon hahahaha.
By captains own logic , Nehru must be automatically suspect as Kashmiris were considered by many initial observers as one of the lost tribes of Israel and of course they have rather light features.
Nuristanis/Kafiristanis are situated in an area which saw invasions from fair skinned peoples over millenia. What is interesting about the Kalash language is that it has the highest number of archaic Sanskrit words followed closely by Telugu.
Regarding Telugu, the actor who played Bukka Reddy in Rakta Charitra- Abhimanyu Singh said that it was easy for him to learn Telugu since he had a degree in Sanskrit! All he had to do is add a few suffixes such as "ammu and ullu"
Ysv&Tim
DeleteI didn't see this indian express article in the past ,but this is interesting to me.because two or three days back,one of my rss friends was telling that the number of Muslim women choosing Hindu husbands is on the rise .maybe this has something to do with triple talaq and similar social problems . But in all these exercises ,the one thing u find common is that tmc govt doesn't take strong steps against vhp in their activities.its a game of tacit understanding between tmc and bjp . Hindu xtian marriages are more common and are almost unnoticed.infact many Bengali xtians don't even hv any separate distinction from Hindu society ,they mingle in Hindu festivals as much as we do.a xtian family in my colony still adheres to their earlier tradition of Hanuman puja at home.they took xtianity because of a monetarymcrisis and church helped them . Some bengali xtians don't even change names ,ie,they keep their original Bengali names and titles intact .I find the Bengali xtian community to be decent and Civic by nature.i live in a town that has sizable xtian population,some families from Kerala as well,partly due to old Portuguese annexation and forceful conversion,and also due to a large basilica in our town which has rehabilitated many convert xtians.but never in the history of our town we have witnessed any problem with the xtian population .what I hv seen is that most xtians are not very religious by nature ,just like most Hindus.
I can understand why you would feel that about the Sinhalese. After all I myself wanted to drop an atom bomb over the island not too long ago, but then I realized I was living in my own fantasies, so I quickly piped down and forgot about it.
DeleteAs for Love Jihad in India, well that's not a problem except in the Hindi heartland. And that problem was compounded by the stinking subculture of Bollywood which is dominated by Punjabis (with roots in modern Pakistan) and Muslims. If we get rid of or at least tear Bollywood asunder, maybe the damage can be mitigated if not completely annihilated.
I never knew about your partly Persian descent. It's really fascinating. Maybe I should wait for a few more years so that biotechnology advances further so I can check where my roots come from, because I don't know myself.
@tim
ReplyDeleteFirstly I am glad to see u online :) hope u are doing great pal.
See much of the allegations agnst mamata are overexaggarated ,and honestly the most appeasing cm in my opinion is shivraj Singh chauhan from bjp camp :P If tmc is doing aadhar fraud,what is the bjp govt at centre doing? This is why I don't trust the rss hindutva lobby anymore.they are more into baseless propaganda than real work.and they are after all a political aspirant ,so they will definitely work as per the fancies of bjp.btw this apart,bjp and tmc are actually defacto allies :) modi and mamata have good friendship at personal level ,their political jugglery against each other is only for show.
Whether hinduva vadis like or not,the fact remains that after a millennium of coexistence,clash,synthesis and assimilation,Indian Hinduism and Indian islam+xtianity hv mingled up inseparably.the only way forward is a reduction of religion+caste consciousness,we are into 21 St century ,temples won't give us any more strength as a nationhood,but our progress in tech+economy would .on this aspect I might again sound to the cultural nationalist of rss :) but I feel that is the only way forward ,it's no use harping on religious sentiments when people are moving into an era of hitech .but then our political class never cared for the same.and over that,some neo hindutva vadis even want modi to press the back gear and take india back to medieval hindutva,if possible :)
India is a fake nation. India's pathetic condition is a proof that multiculturalism never works. Plus even the indian identity is fake. Do you think a man from rajasthan has anything to do with someone from NE? How can you expect them to assimilate or accept this fake indian identity on the expense of losing their own real ethnic/jaati identity. The current modern india is a failed state someone. We need something like EU with states having power.
DeleteWell said , Star platinum's the world. The country should be divided into 3-4 smaller countries imo. I think it's only a matter of time before this country goes aflame in civil wars. I would like to run to somewhere safe before that happens.
Deletedude we are sitting on a ticking bomb. Muslim vs Rest civil war is inevitable in North india if everything goes by current trend.
Delete"Muslim vs Rest civil war is inevitable in North india if everything goes by current trend. " --- Why do you think so ? Most Muslim population is concentrated in UP,Bihar. Rest of the north-western states don't have high Muslim population. I am however worried about the demographic trends.
DeleteI dont really see a Hindu Muslim conflagaration in the near future. IMO the days of Muslim volatility and excitability are at an end, their nervous energy is simply exhausted due to the information age challenging and mocking their beliefs all the time. The sorry state of Muslim world has thoroughly demoralized Indian Muslims . In the past Wahhabis from Saudi ,Qatar and Egypt were happy to help arm and fund troublemakers with Pakistan also giving a helping hand.
DeleteThose days are at an end. They have literally no one who cares about them. And they have a hunker down mentality in much of India.
I have seen this not just in Indian Muslims but Muslims all over the world and I notice the change over the last 20 years. Before Muslims in general had a kind of self confidence and a superiority complex but lately you can see defeat and dejection in their eyes.
I believe this started with the invasion of Iraq in 2003, the last bastion of an independent and defiant Muslim power and all the attendant chaos and destructiont hat ensued not to mention Iran on the Europes and Turkey as a pariah and Arab states as vassals of U.S has dealt their self confidence a death blow.
Not to mention the constant abuse they face online and in social media about the Quran, Mohd, Islam and mocking of their values and culture to which they havent been able to articulate a proper response. Their only recourse is banning such speech which they managed to do to a considerable degree in U.K and Canada but rest of Europe and U.S.A doesnt give a crap and told them to take a hike.
Anyway coming back to India, I see the rift being more regional than sectarian based. BJP idea of Hindutva is really irritating the rest of India who are not from UP, Rajasthan ,Haryana, MP or Gujarat. Heck they managed to irritate even Maharashtrians who practically invented Hindutva.
I find it amazing that those Hindutvadis who lecture others on the glories of diversity of Hinduism and India are aghast that not everyone subscribes to cow as holy or dont care about Ramajanmabhoomi. Rather than engage in debate they use strong arm tactics to undermine their culture and call them anti national.
My god, I have never seen so much talk of secessionism in a long time. Heck even Shashi Tharoor of all people is givng this serious thought.
Apart from this is your basic economics, where south India and Maharashtra are tax revenue providers and states like U.P and Rajasthan are tax leeches. On top of this south Indians have to listen to lectures from these states about they are not patriotic for not learning Hindi or some such bullshit even as people from U.P are coming to Telengana, Karnatakata and TN for work be it white or blue collar.
Nothing good can come from the current scenario if this goes on. This decade witnessed the destruction of WWI creations such as Syria, Iraq and further erosion of other states created in that era such as Lebanon, Egypt , Turkey and Jordan.
Who knows 30 years later may lead to the undermining of post WWII states such as India and those in south east Asia
IMO those who are able to withstand it will be those states which are not multicultural or are hostile to multiculturalism such as Israel , Sri Lanka or Burma
Ysv
DeleteVery interesting points there. I feel somewhat the same,barring those hyper propaganda around zakir naik by Indian right wing ,to be honest this whole thing is drying up now.if we didn't hv a political class like that we hv been getting since indep,courtesy shah bano or such things,I sincerely feel we could hv turned our Indian Muslim society far more progressive.on this aspect ,much to the dismay of rss hardliners,actually modi is taking some good steps,just that it's not what they wished for :)
Saddam Hussain was probably the most secular leader middle East ever got :) btw not just muslims,even vadakayil is a great fan of Saddam,though he never sent his son to graduate from Baghdad univ .
If u wish for a monoculture,u will HV to get smaller nations.otherwise ,even stringent nations like China are seeing an influx of xtianity. the major issue with large nations is the lack of close knit population.
"In the past Wahhabis from Saudi ,Qatar and Egypt were happy to help arm and fund troublemakers with Pakistan also giving a helping hand.
DeleteThey have literally no one who cares about them. And they have a hunker down mentality in much of India." --- I have heard that Indian Muslims who wanted to play real life GTA V by joining ISIS were treated very badly. Being used as toilet sweepers or masturbation aid. Not to mention you already told that Muslims in the Middle east refuse to marry their daughters to indian muslims lol.
"Not to mention the constant abuse they face online and in social media about the Quran, Mohd, Islam and mocking of their values and culture to which they havent been able to articulate a proper response" -- A very good point indeed but Endia is also facing something similar albeit in case of women's rights. Consider the effect of Thompson reuters perception poll which now Chennai has to face.
https://swarajyamag.com/insta/parents-find-india-unsafe-swiss-junior-number-1-squash-player-to-skip-world-championships-in-chennai
Chennai is by far more safe than any of the north indian cities like Delhi/Lucknow.
Btw, YSV, JAM ,did you go through the below link that i posted regarding census ? Wanted to know your opinions !!
@Tim: Did u read this? https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/11-year-old-girl-gang-raped-by-22-for-7-months-in-chennai-18-men-including-security-guards-arrested/articleshow/65021934.cms
DeleteAlso this: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chennai/russian-tourist-gang-raped-in-tiruvannamalai-6-held/articleshow/65032352.cms
Delete@Anu
DeleteGood god, what the hell is going on with the rape of these underage girls? I mean rape of adult women is from a purely biological perspective "understandable" (I am speaking in strictly amoral animalistic terms) but what appeal does a girl 14 and younger have?
There is a sickness in our society which needs to be addressed before we become an international pariah.
In my view there is no solution to this except introducing the notion of radical egalitarianism and individuality.
To be sure the media exagerrates for sensational value the number of rapes in India and pours gasoline on the fire but hearing "respectable" people speak as if umproperly dressed women(i.e wearing tshirt and jeans!!) are meat and men are hungry cats or "boys will be boys" type of statements which go relatively unnoticed and that they are not hounded out of office like they would in America or Europe shows us that we are not serious about addressing this matter.
This actually is relevant to the original posts. In short there are too many Rajeev Srinivasans in India, education is not really a metric of character. IN AP and Telengana, I have seen lot of educated people who studied abroad share exactly the feudal values they grew up with and they take pride in this because they werent contaminated by "Western culture"
DeleteEntire India is in a state of tamas. We tolerate poverty, discrimination evil, mediocrity, filth ,chaos and injustice because of either inertia , low morality or lack of civic concern for our fellow citizen or a combination of all.
Me personally, I think it is due to lack of martial virtues after the disarming by the British that we lack any sort of mojo to improve our socieities.
CS Lewis said that courage is the ultimate virtue because if you are unable to stand up for your convictions that they remain mere words.
Saddam was a secular dictator but not as much as Hafez/Bashar Assad whom Syrian Christians will fight to death for (and are doing currently).
DeleteSaddam and Assads were both of the Baath party who prided themselves on a type of Arab fascism which was secular in nature. This ideology was founded by Michel Aflaq who was a Christian from Syria but he saw Islam and Mohd as an example of the Arab genius and hence to be celebrated.
Saddam downplayed secularism after being driven out of Kuwait by the first Bush in 91. He added Allahu Akbar to the Iraqi flag shortly thereafter.
Even around 1990 when he invaded Kuwait and defied U.S he became a symbol of Muslim power for Muslims worldwide
Hence there is a town called Saddam Hussein in Kerala!
Indian Muslims were rather passionate about all sorts of Muslim causes worldwide whether in Chechnya, Iraq, Palestine, Bosnia etc. Nowadays they dont seem to care anymore
Modi has maintained an attack on Muslim culture since he took office even as Gujarat CM. He refers to a minister with Patel as his surname as Patel mian to remind his voters that this Patel(Ahmed Patel) is actually a Muslim
gauraksha and vegetarianism are part of his jihad against Muslim culture which he sees south Indian customs(Telengana having highest %age of non vegetarians in the country at 98%) as collateral damage.
@Anu
DeleteThat Russian tourists story does not add up....
"In my view there is no solution to this except introducing the notion of radical egalitarianism and individuality"
DeleteThe simple solution is, parents being strict and giving good values to their children like ol times. India is filled with lowlife uncultured trash,there is no need to introduce radical reforms or ideologies because it won't reach those lowlives. I think porn and excess to internet is making these lowlives more thirsty and empowering their predatory instincts. JIO was a mistake.
Parents are part of the problem, they themselves have these feudal and regressive values of blaming girls for rape etc.
DeleteAnd this compounded with the fact we worship authority figures including parents , teacher and politicians and do little critical thinking.
We need to make a break with authority figures and introduce new ideas and fresh blood in our national culture.
@ysv: Is this Rajeev Srinivasan the same person who writes for swarajya mag & his twitter id: https://twitter.com/RajeevSrinivasa
Delete@ysv: Is this Rajeev Srinivasan the same person who writes for swarajya mag & his twitter id: https://twitter.com/RajeevSrinivasa
DeleteYup the very same SOB
I might get called as an emotionless scumbag and a feudal lord like Rajeev srinivasan but regarding the second link that Anu posted about the Russian woman ---->
DeleteOne of the accused is the one who took her to the police station and He said she
invited him to the apartment Saturday night where they had consensual sex that
night and the following day. He claimed that he found her unconscious when returned
to the apartment on Monday evening after going to buy vegetables and fruits . They also found drugs in the apartment where the woman was residing and so far we have not seen a comment from the woman as of now. Why would a "sadistic rapist" bring the woman to hospital ? From what i understood after reading the article, the woman after regaining consciousness had not said anything.
" We tolerate low morality or lack of civic concern for our fellow citizen or a combination of all " -- I can assure you most people don't tolerate child molesters. People have been lynched to DEATH just on suspicions of being child traffickers recently (Whatsapp lynchings). IF guilty especially in case of child abuse, they should be hanged to death but i request to please hold down till the investigation has completed. For example check this out
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bengaluru/Why-freedom-will-mean-little-to-this-rape-accused/articleshow/50023036.cms
This guy(From Andhra Pradesh btw) was accused of sexually assaulting a young girl when he was not even present in the school on the day of alleged accident. He was jailed for 95 days and he still suffers from psycological problems.
YSV, it seems that you caught on to the Russian tourist story. Sorry for writing such a long comment about the russian story above.
Delete@TIm Drake
DeleteYes the Russian story has just too many holes that stretch credibility of the rape claim.
"The simple solution is, parents being strict and giving good values to their children like ol times. India is filled with lowlife uncultured trash,there is no need to introduce radical reforms or ideologies because it won't reach those lowlives" -- Values,culture,patriarchy etc are all fine and good but imo, increased pollution, increased heavy metal content , degrading quality of food is more responsible for increase in crimes. I would venture out and guess that most of the groundwater supply might already be contaminated with arsenic,cadmium,lead,flouride etc. My solution would be to clean up the food, water and air.
Deleteand Yes, i agree with you that Jio was a mistake.
Values,culture,patriarchy etc are all fine and good "
DeleteNo they are not fine , if they were fine, India would not be having these problems and would be a first world country with the proper law and order.
Pollution is a by product of these rotten values which tolerate crony capitalism and corruption from the top down and bottom up.
What is this "jio" everyone keeps referring to.
I think both Star Platinum and Tim Drake mean that Reliance "Jio" with its cheap data revolution was a big mistake as it enabled all sorts of people to gain access to the Internet for all the wrong reasons.
DeleteRape, especially child rape, is a nationwide problem. Frankly it wasn't so bad a decade ago, but Tamil Nadu has also started deteriorating socially, so this type of news doesn't surprise me anymore.
Don't believe that Thomson Reuters Foundation report blindly! It puts the United States in the top 10 and India above DR Congo!!! But there's no mention of South Africa wherein 1 in 4 men admit to having committed rape, Egypt wherein the horrible practice of female genital mutilation is pervasive (more than 90% of Egypt's women have undergone this horror), Sweden wherein women are not safe from migrants, or other nations. Yes, India is bad, but how is India worse than DR Congo wherein nearly half a million women are raped every year?!?
Frankly I don't know how to handle child rape. The society has to change otherwise we are well on the way to becoming pariahs. Feudalism is something that we can't get rid of. Maybe bribing/luring people, including desperate ones, with money, public/private jobs and other goodies would do the trick? I can't think beyond this.
Speaking of Saddam Hussein and Hafez & Bashar al-Assad, do you think it's a good idea if the US invade Venezuela? I think Trump wants to do that. If he does so, I will back him because of the awful news that comes out everyday from that once prosperous nation. But what if it becomes another Iraq/Libya? Oh wait, it already is...
"Frankly it wasn't so bad a decade ago, but Tamil Nadu has also started deteriorating socially, so this type of news doesn't surprise me anymore." ---
DeleteThen what changed in a decade ? It definitely couldn't be that all of a sudden people got more "patriarchal". Btw, FEMALES can be child molesters too. I read in a hindi newspaper that POSCO special court found two female teachers guilty for sexually molesting a girl child.
IMO, One of the major causes for increase in all the crimes is environmental degradation. For example , Check this out ( nitrate laden meat )
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/media/releases/beef_jerky_and_other_processed_meats_associated_with_manic_episodes
I have seen this kind of garbage being sold in metros.
It's only going to get worse when hypothyroid mothers will give birth to semi-autistic children who will be devoid of empathy. I read somewhere about some hair metal levels associated with criminality patterns (Blood tests are generally useless to gauge long term metal/mineral exposure. The body rapidly clears out the heavy metal from blood and stores it across various tissues hence they took hair mineral analyses). It showed some interesting patterns like increased manganese,lead being associated with violent crimes. I will try to dig down studies which tries to correlate some biological markers with such crime patterns.
The data for crimes across the nation is there at ncrb.gov.in . Feel free to go through it.
" do you think it's a good idea if the US invade Venezuela? I think Trump wants to do that. If he does so, I will back him because of the awful news that comes out everyday from that once prosperous nation. But what if it becomes another Iraq/Libya" --- Ever thought a lot of 'awful' news might be exaggerated to do exactly what you are saying. A lot of awful news is coming out of India also. DO you want Trump to invade India :) ?
"Pollution is a by product of these rotten values which tolerate crony capitalism" -- It does create a positive feedback loop :).
"I never knew about your partly Persian descent. It's really fascinating. Maybe I should wait for a few more years so that biotechnology advances further so I can check where my roots come from, because I don't know myself." --- We already are there. You can get your Y-DNA haplogroup ( which comes from father) and mtDNA haplogroup (which comes from mother) checked. There are companies in Hyderabad which provide these services. But it's going to cost you a lot ( something like 10 K INR). I would wait for a few years.
@Tim: "Frankly it wasn't so bad a decade ago, but Tamil Nadu has also started deteriorating socially, so this type of news doesn't surprise me anymore." ---
DeleteWhat WildFire perhaps means to say is that since AIADMK is ruling TN for nearly a decade, social conditions as well as law and order situation has deteriorated there. He is strongly anti-AIADMK.
I apologize in advance in case some may find it crass but do you think that legalizing prostitution on a mass scale and reducing the stigma associated with it would help in decreasing sexual assault cases ? (I think paying for sex is already legal )
DeleteI support legalization of prostitution. Most studies are unanimous in showing wherever it is legalization the rate of trafficking and other abuses drops astronomically.
DeleteIn a repressed society, pornography and prostitution is a good outlet for overactive male libidos which would otherwise lead to rape on a large scale.
I believe it is legal in Mumbai, prostitutes even have their own union. Though the law changes with each government and my info could be outdated
THe drawback is that if it is legal , then from beureucratic POV it is a profession like any other. This leads to some unpleasant scenarios such as what occurs in Germany on a regular basis, women who are looking for work are denied unemployment benefits because they dont try prostitution! In this way, there is a type of coercion forcing decent women into these professions by government fiat!
Btw, FEMALES can be child molesters too."
DeleteYes in America, female teachers trysts with underage male students is near epidemic proportions. Part of the reason is feminism which entails not only sexual liberty but a subordination of the male . In schools they have an opportunity for both.
And judging from the mugshots, some of these teachers are quite attractive. Now many men would say -ah thats a lucky boy, how awesome that would be. I dont see the problem.
But there is a problem, that is of abuse of authority. Most of the time, these boys are unable to function properly and drop out of high school or college and develop psychological problems and end up child abusers themselves.
There are ahem happy endings to these stories only in pornos and erotic stories. Not in real life.
Trumps base , who were responsible for electing him, are not interested in invading Venezuala or any other place. They are wary of war, after watching Iraq project go south and no end in sight in Afghanistan. Even his staunchest defenders such as Milo condemned him for launching missiles into Syria.
DeleteLet Venuzuela be seen as yet another example of the failure of socialism.
"I believe it is legal in Mumbai, prostitutes even have their own union. Though the law changes with each government and my info could be outdated" --- I read about few raids by the police in Bengaluru and Delhi on spas located in posh malls when they found out that they had thai women giving massage + . Do you think such an action was warranted (considering all the women were over 20 years of age and none seemed to trafficked illegally ) at least in Delhi :) ?
DeleteI'm all for legalizing prostitution as long as it doesn't affect decent women like it does in Germany.
DeleteProstitution grew in Iran post 1979. Before that it used to be legal I heard.
And yes, female child molesters backed by feminists are out of control in the USA and it's eroding their society from the grassroots. A very bad sign. These boys/men then go out and rape other kids. That sounds like an endless nightmare. There's nothing lucky about it.
Well, okay, let Venezuela rot in hell. No need for America to invade them and create further trouble for themselves back home.
Did those Thai women have work permits and valid visas? If not, then cops in any nation will raid them.
DeleteI don't want to spend 10K bucks for something like DNA testing yet. I'll wait for a while before proceeding.
You seem to know a lot about chemicals and their effects in people. Are you a chemist by any chance?
I suggested a US invasion of Venezuela because there's an opposition there and removing Maduro will help them come to power and start fixing the broken nation, but there's always the other side wherein it could descend into further chaos.
Tamil Nadu didn't become patriarchal overnight, it has been stagnating and declining since 2012. With no jobs or a future, people either move out or those who stay back resort to all kinds of social misdemeanors. From being one of the leading economic powerhouses to a debt ridden dysfunctional nightmare, what a fall!
"If not, then cops in any nation will raid them." -- Check this out.
Deletehttps://www.ndtv.com/gurgaon-news/15-people-including-5-thai-nationals-arrested-from-gurgaon-spa-centre-1878079?ndtv_related
It says "He said the police are verifying the visas of the foreigners to ascertain if any of them were staying here apart from working visa".
Another one involving desi girls though (cops bust club for carrying out 'immoral' activities ) -- https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/gurgaon/third-mall-mile-bar-raided-in-july-as-cops-go-after-sex-ring/articleshow/65061474.cms
"I don't want to spend 10K bucks for something like DNA testing yet. I'll wait for a while before proceeding" -- It will become cheaper within the next decade.
"Are you a chemist by any chance?" -- Na, my knowledge is very very limited and so far has not been of any help to me. Just wanted to learn a few things as India is getting extremely polluted ( and pretty much no one seems to care it seems :( ) so i think it would a handy skill to know about the ill-effects of chemicals and how to detox them (strengthen liver and kidneys).
Oh, okay.
DeleteI can understand if foreign workers were verified, though there are much better ways to do it. Why harass local Indian workers? This is where cops don't help matters.
Hopefully DNA testing becomes cheaper. Well there's also genome editing wherein we can cure hereditary diseases and also change how we look, but the latter component has gained a lot of opposition, so much so that my idol Elon Musk himself doesn't want to do it because he doesn't want another Hitler to rise.
I wonder, if somebody wants to change the way he or she looks, which in essence is changing one's racial features, why should it be anybody's problem?
India is heavily polluted but we have no choice. Maybe automation can help a bit in curtailing the damage, but we must rely on conventional sources of energy, at least for some more time. Green/renewable sources of energy are simply not enough. Sure Elon Musk invented the electric car, but we'll have to wait for and also support him and people like him in order to get further.
"Why harass local Indian workers? This is where cops don't help matters." -- The cops were trying to curb 'immoral' activities.
Delete"Well there's also genome editing wherein we can cure hereditary diseases and also change how we look, but the latter component has gained a lot of opposition, so much so that my idol Elon Musk himself doesn't want to do it because he doesn't want another Hitler to rise" --- Not sure if genome editing is going to be a panacea (too much marketing !!) but again i don't know enough.
Wildfire, I have a question for you. I was checking the latest NHFS data . On page 157 , there is a section on consanguineous marriages.(Here,Consanguineous marriage is defined as women who report their husband were related to them by blood before marriage. Sample taken from ever married women between the age 15-49). Tamil Nadu ranks at the top with 33% of married women (age 15-49) having consanguineous marriages.
May i ask why is the number so high when Muslim population is not that high ?
Too much inbreeding, and as you move south, it increases. Remember Tamils may not be too religion conscious, but they're very caste conscious. Backward caste Hindus wouldn't mind allying with Christians from the same background but they will never accept Scheduled Caste Hindus.
Delete"https://themalefactor.com/2015/02/12/is-indias-census-data-deliberately-fudged-to-show-skewed-gender-ratio/" --- I know there is strong son preference in some parts of India but ,guys, what do you think of the above link ?
ReplyDeleteI stopped reading after the first paragraph. The guy has no common sense and does not know anything about statistics. He sees an increase in population between 2001 and 2011 and sees this as a cause for suspicion as he thinks the data suggests 10 year olds are giving birth in 2011
DeleteI am very suspicious of any MGTOW type sites in India and U.S in general. I have sympathies for some aspects of MGTOW in the West as the society is overwhelmingly biased in favor of females when it comes to education, jobs, families, divorce or popular culture in general, there are men who just think the best deal is to check out.
But a lot of weirdos want to hop on the bandwagon ,usually unattractive types who women are not interested in and hence take it out on all women
In India obviously , women in general are in dire need of upliftment. Yes Indian feminists are often shrill and hostile but they usually dont know anything and simply imitate the language and culture of Western feminists which is not applicable to India. However feminism is a dirty word so female upliftment or whatever new term is what required for Indian women . There is just too much feudal values in our culture and should be rooted out.
Incidentally, AP which mostly recieved progressive education and institutions under the British celebrate feudalism in their movies and popular culture but Telengana which saw the horors of feudalism are more egalitarian and have more liberal views regarding women. Women in Telengana consume alcohol without any stigma, they would even give alcohol to children so they would sleep peacefully!
"they would even give alcohol to children so they would sleep peacefully" -- This doesn't sound wise to me lol.
Delete"Incidentally, AP which mostly recieved progressive education and institutions under the British celebrate feudalism in their movies and popular culture but Telengana which saw the horors of feudalism are more egalitarian and have more liberal views regarding women. Women in Telengana consume alcohol without any stigma, they would even give alcohol to children so they would sleep peacefully!"
DeleteStrange are the ways of the world. I really don't know what else to say...
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/govt-body-finds-high-levels-of-groundwater-contamination-across-india/articleshow/65204273.cms
ReplyDelete"high levels of contamination of groundwater with the level of nitrates exceeding permissible limits in more than 50% districts of India. "
"The monitoring details show that states like Punjab, Haryana,Uttar Pradesh, Tamil Nadu,
Telangana and West Bengal reported presence of all types of toxic elements,including heavy
metals,in the groundwater of one of their district"
I posted some study that had a causal relationship with nitrate laden meats and maniac episodes(though the study was on rats but i won't be surprised if the same happens in humans). After Nitrates,Fluoride was the next major concern. It has been linked to low IQ and it's well known that high fluoride intake causes bone related issues. The condition is known as fluorosis.
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