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    1. What is with the pathetic obsession with this blog, JS?
      Are you some kind of moron?

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    2. He has kindly left his harem of hot white chicks to spent all his free time at this blog. His sacrifice is greater than Bhishma's. We should be eternally grateful.

      I love how the Israeli flag triggers some drooling knuckle draggers. It is fascinating to see.

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    3. Yes, he is the Dan Bilzerian of this blog! If not for him, how would we ever get so much entertainment?

      By the way, what were the other comments below which you deleted? You deleted them before I could even see them and I missed all the entertainment!

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    4. Cause he has no answers. He knows I'm right.
      I have demolished his silly world view revovling around subaltern masculinity.

      This blog is probably one of the cringiest places on the Internet.

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    5. "This blog is probably one of the cringiest places on the Internet." you came here initially grovelling to me and got butthurt when others pointed to you are the champion of self owns and cringe "andhra of brahmana race" ,"drownig in white women","i smell damn good". etc etc.

      Hell hath no fury than Jahaz Soz scorned hahahhaha. You have chosen your name appropriately. You feel burns constantly but lash it out at the greater world. Now I will delete your subsequent comments as you would have calmed down by then and your sober nonsense is far less amusing than your triggered incoherence and rage which i enjoyed here. Thank you for that.

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    6. Yo JS, where exactly did you "demolish" his claims? You were only throwing homophobic insults left and right and getting triggered over nothing.

      Anyways, please continue posting. No one produces more entertainment here than you do.

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    7. Are you mentally retarded?
      I said he deleted my posts didn't I ?

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  2. Whatever your views on Israel, do you not think Netanyahu went too far this time with his attack on the al-Aqsa mosque during Ramadan? Just because he wanted to retain power, he decided to trigger a conflict that has blown up far worse than before.

    What I particularly hate of this is that even the little enlightenment in the Muslim world created by the ex-Muslim movement will go in vain and people will grip more fundamental strands of Islam even more strongly than before. All thanks to Netanyahu and his greed for power.

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    1. Netanyahu for his myriad of flaws was not the aggressor. People were being evacuated due to security reasons which Pals turned into a riot.
      Netanyahu's time is up . He is a slimy sort of beureucrat. However the recent peace accords have this sort of thing baked in in the mix. If whatever enlightenment cant withstand a nation standing up for its interests then it is not genuine.

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    2. "If whatever enlightenment cant withstand a nation standing up for its interests then it is not genuine."

      It is not too easy to further enlightenment in the Muslim world. Tribalism is extreme there and we all know it. Ex-Muslims have worked hard and gotten so far with everything coming at them. This was the best opportunity we had to witness enlightenment slowly take root there but it is literally being undone now.

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  5. Thank you Pakistani for taking the bait. Pakistani confirmed.

    And btw I already quoted that piece on my blog but thanks for playing.

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  6. This is what you are reduced to .hahahah

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  7. This tweet by the Israeli PM office was rather alarming

    "The weak crumble, are slaughtered and are erased from history while the strong, for good or for ill, survive. The strong are respected, and alliances are made with the strong, and in the end peace is made with the strong."

    One would think the representative of a government whose people were the victims of an ideology who believed that same very same thing not long ago would know better.
    However the audience for that are not Western nations and their fraudulent empath Christian morality but for the Arab world which respects strength rather than weakness. It was geared towards more of the Bedouin states of the GCC (who not too coincidentally made peace with Israel) whose ethos worships strength rather than fake morality.
    It was intended to be Neitzchean than Hitlerian. Yes Hitler was "inspired" by Nietzche though Nietzche himself despised similar ideologies at the time. It was his sister who promoted Nietzche as the intellectual godfather of Nazism, not Nietzche himself.
    Nietzhe's view is pretty much the same as mine especially with regard to Indians- slaves cannot be tolerant, the cowardly cannot claim to be pacific.

    Reminds me of hideously ugly and repulsive women on quora who claim that being asexual or sapiosexual is a choice. hahahaha ok then.

    Similarly limp wristed scrawny people cannot claim that they "choose" not to fight on basis of their morality of ahimsa or whatever. The strong are those who choose to be moral , that is the morality that matters.

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    1. Are you so sure it is still the same? The Arab world has changed a lot across the years. The Arab Spring through the 2010s saw nonviolent protests that led to regimes falling in Yemen, Egypt, Tunisia, Algeria and Sudan.

      Even Princess Hend bin Faisal al-Qassimi who belongs to the Emirati Royal Family said Gandhi might have died in India but he lives on. I was initially stunned but I realized that change was real. (Disclaimer: I hate Mohandas Gandhi myself so no need to go into that!)

      Prominent Arab activists like Iyad el-Baghdadi (who is hated by the Saudi Crown Prince) have been advocating strategic nonviolence for quite a long time now.

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  8. Wow new look and name for the blog.

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    1. Yeah ,thought its overdue haha. However comments display is giving me trouble again.

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  9. Obviously any decent person should take the side of a secular democratic state against the terrorist dictatorship that is Hamas. However what exactly is Israel's motive in building settlements in the west bank? They can't annex the west bank, that would mean granting citizenship to non-jews. Alan Dershowitz, not exactly a rabid anti-semite has conceded that civilian settlements in the west bank are illegal by international law

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    1. I saw a debate between Alan Dershowitz and Rabbi Meir Kahane on youtube .Kahane called out the obfuscation of Dershowitz on the issue of the ticking time bomb of Palestinian population. And Kahane correctly predicted that any withdrawal from territories would symbolize weakness and lead to violence. As what happened with southern Lebanon in 2000 and Gaza in 2005.
      Kahane was considered a racist but I believe his words when he says that he respects the Arabs and they are not so cheap to be bought with prosperity . As I mentioned they respect strength and withdrawal from these territories will represent weaknesses and compel them to attack Israel more.
      All this could have been avoided if Israel simply evicted all of them in 1967. But that was not done.
      I think that half measures of military occupation are worse than all out war and displacement. Similarly I think hanging on to Kashmir is a big headache, either give them independence with severe caveats which I mentioned or simply scatter them into Pakistan and replace them with other peoples. Its this indecision which is creating chaos and resentment.

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    2. At the same time, I also believe that there is certainly an Israeli deep state which many Israeli TV shows allude to where similar to U.S there are military contractors which prefer to excarbate conflicts so as to sell weapons. Netanyahu personifies this. This is why there is no last resolution in any conflict just as there wasnt in Iraq ,Afghanistan and other places- it was by design. Trump tried to reign them in in both countries and we all saw what happened.....

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    3. Speaking of Kashmir, my solution to the issue would stir up trouble and literally lead to my family facing attacks from angry mobs that cannot get to me.

      But nonetheless, here is my Kashmir solution:
      India should retain Jammu and Ladakh which have Hindu and Buddhist majorities and handover the Kashmir valley which has 99% Muslims to Pakistan and turn the LoC into the international border between India and Pakistan. No freedom to Jammu and Kashmir even with severe caveats because it will easily slip away from our hands.

      Kashmiri Pandits will not return to the valley no matter what. There must be a way to resettle them in Jammu and Ladakh instead. A loss on our side but we have China to deal with.

      But in order for that to happen, we cannot have two conflicting borders. Making peace with China is essentially surrendering to all their demands as China is a military superpower. So it is only possible to make peace with Pakistan which we match militarily, Kashmir or not.

      An ugly situation but scrapping Article 370 was the trigger which led to this mess in the first place. Getting out of it will be impossible so need to make the best out of what is at hand.

      Also making peace with Pakistan is essential in order to repair relations with Iran and Russia which have also been damaged.

      A price to pay for geopolitical belligerence?

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  10. YSV, Why do you feel the need to act as Israrel's cheerleader?
    Is it because watching mullah-centric Bollywood movies made you feel like less of a man? LMAO

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    1. You are beyond stupid. I cant remember the last time I watched ay Bollywood crap. I did and still maintain that the mullacracy is due to Punjabi slavish mindset rather than any Muslim underworld(which has bee neutered since the early 2000s atleast). Anyway idiot Jahan Soz masquerading in another equally lame account- I know it hurts your Paki feelings when someone supports Israel even as Pakis are begging UAE and Saudi like common vagrants not to recall their loans.The same way you and your "brahmana" buddy Aham Brahmasmi/dagoat/Rohan spent more time bashing other Indians and exactly zero time criticizing Pakis on historum.

      I hope you respond with a long post bitching and whining some more because I look forward to wasting that effort with the delete button.

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    2. Answer the question instead of running around like a chicken with its head cut off.

      Why do you support baby killer Jew scum? I want India or Pakistan to give 50 nukes to Iran so they can point it right at Israeli settlements.

      The right thing to do to Israeli settler scum is s to burn their shadows into the ground like America did in Japan.

      DEATH TO ISRAEL

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    4. ok,sweetheart. Whatever you say.

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    5. JS is so out of touch with reality. Nuclear weapons today are more of a liability than an asset unless you are facing a country with WWII level war preparedness today, like the Gulf Arab states. Electronic/electromagnetic, cyber and space warfare will put out even a country which has the most nukes on earth but otherwise with WWII or even Gulf War 1991 level preparedness.

      As much as I differ with Rao over Israel, Israel has electronic/electromagnetic and cyber warfare capabilities which can deter anyone. Economic dealings aside, there is a reason even Turkey hesitates to wage war on Israel despite the former producing war drones of all shapes, sizes and forms.

      With just one cyber attack, the Israelis made Iran's Natanz uranium enrichment site explode! Iran is #1 at fourth-generation warfare: waging war through proxies. But it is almost safe to assume Israel has war capabilities that would overpower Iran and its proxies even if the latter had nukes.

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  11. BURN THEIR SHADOWS INTO THE GROUND
    THE NAZIS WERE RIGHT

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    1. hahahaha. Thank you for this response. When it comes masculinity, yo u have totally showed it with this post

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    2. Hey Adeel Raja, please stop hiding behind the name "Jahan Soz" and come out with your real ID.
      https://www.huffpost.com/entry/cnn-adeel-raja-adolf-hitler_n_60a23201e4b063dcceab99a9

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    3. For those keeping track-the critical posts of Pakistan and Islam by "brahmana" Jahan Soz=0
      He seems to concentrate exclusively bashing Israelis and majority of Indians via proxy(abusing non Brahmins). Speaking of Paki slobbering over Palestinians- Palestinians who are considered the Albanians and Mexicans of Arab society dont even consider Pakistanis to be respectable- they refer to to them as "maskeen Hindi" (poor Indians- they dont differentiate between Indians and Pakistanis whom they view in equal contempt). And yet Pakis go around licking their boots and giving them money.
      Sure much Hindutva support for Israel is one dimensional . however there is far more reciprocation from Israel in support for India than there is from Palestine for Pakistan apart from some lame words in support of Kashmiri terrorist vermin.
      And lol on Arabs and nightclubs comment , this thirsty adolescent can think only in terms of trying to score with women(and failing terribly). Speaking of this- let me give you an example. When I visited the Israeli consulate in Amman, there was a long line (about 30 ) Palestinians before me . Me and a Ukrainian guy ( who was a software engineer looking for work) were the only two non Arabs. The Bedouin guard saw us both and pulled us to the front of the line. I actually felt bad at this situation and wished the process was more equitable . however Israelis arent stupid. They can differentiate between Arabs and non Arabs a mile away.

      Those who think that Israelis considers any darker person to be Arab is just retarded.

      BTW I asked the guard if any Pakistani visited Israel(even though Pakistan doesnt have relations with Israel, apparently some can visit by not having Israel stamp their passport with entry visa but on a separate piece of paper but Israel discontinued this practice more than 10 years ago) , the guard told me yes but that they were strip searched and even probed and they even deserve this treatment ."baakistani khara" -Pakistanis are shit - he said as he spat on the ground. We both had a good laugh. You see Arabs ,as many hard headed Israelis note, whatever their myriad flaws are usually good judges of character. They correctly have contempt for those who grovel such as Pakistanis and liberal Israelis wanting "peace" in exchange for land and respect those who approach them from a position of strength.

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    6. "Whats really funny is that I've taken pics of all my deleted posts and I will always laugh at how I've reduced this blog to my personal commode."

      Good for you bro. Now with those pics make your own blog and jerk off to them while mewling about what a big bad Jew loving baby killing meanie I am. Post haste.
      now if you dont mind i am late for my dinner consisting of Palestinian toddler lungs , yum tender succulent flesh indeed.

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    7. Is not Hindi Mishkeen the word Arab Muslims used for Indian Muslims? I never knew Palestinians used the same term for Pakistanis! What a surprise.

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    8. And what about the people of Turkey? Pakistanis are drooling all over Turks now. The former are literally wiping the floor with their own dignity in front of the latter as they always do.

      Is it a recent phenomenon and do we need to wait for sometime? Or do you already know something? From what I can see, Turks seem to find Pakistanis as a good cash cow and are making a killing through shows like Diriliş: Ertuğrul and selling Pakistan their other stuff (even Indian Muslims love Diriliş: Ertuğrul). You might know better.

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    9. He made some lame comment about Indian and Pak Muslims being "goat fuckers" which says absolutely nothing. It was just casual abuse which doesnt says nothing of consequence but standard taqqiya. Then he started slobbering and drooling over Iran as is the standard Paki default setting and praised their accomplishments (hahahaha). I like much of Iranian culture and aesthetics but the people themselves arent really capable of changing any status quo. They were ruled by foreigners almost continuosly for more than 1400 years. All the famous "persian" invaders and conquerers since have been actually Turks based in Persia with the exception of Ghori who was Tajik. Iranian women are notoriously pro Western to the extent of engaging in pre marital sex as FU to mullahs. But that is all Iranian society is capable of in terms of resistance apparently.

      I am not familiar with Turkish series so I cant comment but they seemed to have ditched Arabs in favor of Turks but panicked and grovelled back when GCC nations threatened to recall their loans.

      I look forward to JS coming back with self owns such treating this blog like his toilet which simply implies that his posts are just shit. hahahaha. Apart from this he called me dickless and to go fuck myself not once but 6 times (wow that showed) even fucking oneself becomes problematic without a dick.

      I love how posts about Israel operates as a roach motel entrapping and exposing vermin.

      Anyway JS , you seem to have an awful lot of time for someone who is drowning in hot white chicks. Totally beleivable, I also believe you are not constantly rejected and humiliated by them as you are here. Please honor us with your time and post again so it can you jack yourself it being deleted as is some BDSM fetish of yours.

      This dude has incel shooter vibes all over him.

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    10. A fucking vegetarian "ammanji" (Tamil slang) Brahmin writing blogs is the last one who should talk about fighting wars.

      Your bitch ass would not last 2 minutes in a street fight, imagine lasting 8 years in a war with the whole world against you.

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      "A fucking vegetarian "ammanji" (Tamil slang) Brahmin writing blogs is the last one who should talk about fighting wars.

      Your bitch ass would not last 2 minutes in a street fight, imagine lasting 8 years in a war with the whole world against you."

      Wait a minute ...wasnt your entire shtick crowing about how bad ass Brahmins are compared to Shudras and Muslims? A little bit of pressure and that fraudulent facade falls apart hahahaha. hahahaha you people are quite predictable.

      BTW here are some facts to make you weep- Israel heavily assisted the Iranians during the Iran -Iraq war. hahahahaha. Even with Israels help and its larger size and more educated and battle ready population, it nearly got its clock cleaned by Iraq which itself barely had a functioning military. Iraq of course did not perform well at all on a unit level it was far superior.

      The fact remains-Iranians were not considered a martial people at all since the fall of the Sassanids atleast. Turks considered them -people of the pen rather than people of the sword(which was reserved for Turks and Mongols). That is ok, it takes all kinds to make a society but false and comical claims should be checked and corrected. Israel for the last 15 years have been blowing up military, nuclear and marine assets left and right in Iran and the latter can just twiddle its thumbs and yell "Death to Israel" hahahahahaha. Even hezbolllah(once an impressive military asset, composed not of Iranians but mountain Lebanese) is thoroughly crippled and inept.

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    12. Hahahah what a dumb autist and a contempt for facts.

      There are Brahmins and there are Brahmins my friend. There are guys like me and there are guys like you. The coward , nerdy type of loser brahmin is called "ammanji" in Tamil Nadu, but not all Brahmins are called that. In fact it is mostly used by Brahmins themselves to mock overly studious and effeminate types. You should know somthing before opening your mouth.

      Iran was in NO WAY more powerful than Iraq and its allies. Iran faced weapons that were banned by Geneva conventions such as chemical weapons, nerve gas et al, and just read about how an entire generation of Iranian y0uth sacrificed life and limb to gain just a few yards of land.

      Don't even let the words "martial" escape your filthy mouth again. We will see if your Reddy and Velama rapist heroes show that kind of spirit in the next 500 years.

      There are non-Ammanj Brahmin war heroes by the score, but Telugu landlord castes and their Niyogi lackeys are better at raping defenceless Dalit women than fighting wars it seems. No wonder the love for Israel!!

      hahahaha what a simp and know nothing. go kill yourself.

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    13. Do you even listen to the words that come out of your mouth? You can gaslight yourself plenty as you have demonstrated repeatedly and have an incredibly deranged grasp of reality. Dont assume others are as mentally deficient as yourself
      You outed yourself repeatedly by abusing Telugus and now Brahmins and now you want to claim your words dont really mean what they mean. Well you have reason not to respect your own opinion but your words are your own noose.


      Iran is not martial. Iranian women consent to be whores and Iranian men are increasingly into effeminate faggotry as seen by their over representation on TikTok. hahahahah go weep about this some more and be sure to issue more impotent threats and ultimata such as these
      "Don't even let the words "martial" escape your filthy mouth again. We will see if your Reddy and Velama rapist heroes show that kind of spirit in the next 500 years."
      Internet tough guys and gangsters are my absolute favorite. You are probably the least self aware person I have met online in a long long time.

      You are simping for promiscuous Iranian women , what a joke hahahahah.
      https://www.worldsecuritynetwork.com/Broader-Middle-East/Spengler-/Jihadis-and-whores
      Now bitch about it some more , simp of whores.

      "In fact it is mostly used by Brahmins themselves to mock overly studious and effeminate types. You should know somthing before opening your mouth."

      oh please do shut up. Next thing you will tell me that Marwaris and Hasidic Jews mock accountants and Talmudic experts as non martial. How much of a fool you continue to make of yourself. Brahmins apart from bhumihars (whose brahminism is highly suspect) are not known to prefer war as a calling at all. Any average brahmin would consider it as unneccesarily risk when other venues of employment are open. You are talking about outliers and consdiering these the mainstream. You are utterly retarded. All of your claims are a thorough joke.

      "weapons, nerve gas et al, and just read about how an entire generation of Iranian y0uth sacrificed life and limb to gain just a few yards of land."

      hahahahahahaha. You mean where the "youths sacrificed their life" when the mullahs gave them a (literal) key to paradise and made them march through minefields with barely a rusted rifle each. Some of these kids were as young as 8 or 9. If you mention this to any Iranian family who lost those boys in the war they will spit on you for considering this honorable.
      You have zero clue of anything you espouse, how you even manage to breathe without specific instruction is a mystery to me.

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    14. Bro you forgot to say "DEATH TO ISRAEL". Let the non martial people of the pen oriented Iranians and their lackeys use their most potent weapons at their disposal. I mean if you dont write it constantly , how else will Israel be destroyed? Certainly not by Iranian military abilities hahahahaha

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    15. if you have to LARP as a macho south Indian Brahmin atleast do some basic research - ammanji has nothing to do with being martial or non martial but simply means maternal cousin. Sometimes it has a derogatory implication that the person is a bit stupid. It however has nothing to do with your bizarre claims. Just give up your stupid charade already before you dig an even deeper hole.

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    16. Come to think of it, you are right. To support your point, Nadir Shah Afshar who invaded India with the help of Ahmad Shah Abdali was actually an ethnic Turkoman/Turkmen, not Persian.

      I will agree with you on this one: Persian language, art and aesthetics seems/sounds quite appealing and attractive. There is a good reason Sanghis say "Shaheed" instead of "Tyagi". Also that True Indology dude actually used an Ozbek/Uzbek painting as his profile picture while claiming to be an expert in Indian history!

      https://twitter.com/Schandillia/status/1393609078388137985
      https://twitter.com/Schandillia/status/1393610819716399106

      Jokes aside, the way you describe Iranians, they remind me of our own Sindhis and Gujaratis. Not capable of serious resistance.

      But I must disagree with you on one thing: Before 1979, less than 40% of all Iranian women were educated. Compare that to today where they are far more educated. This is a statistic and nothing more.
      https://iranprimer.usip.org/blog/2020/dec/09/part-5-statistics-women-iran

      Meanwhile, even in 1979, school enrollment in Iraq was near 100%. The decade-long war with Iran reduced Iraq to dust and left them with very high debt.

      As for the Iran-Iraq war, fucker Khomeini tried to incite Iraqi Shias to revolt against Saddam Hussein and it led to war. Despite Iraq's limitations at the time, they were impressive. But it also had to do with the fact that the buffoon Khomeini was too busy executing all air force pilots whom he suspected of disloyalty, effectively leaving Iran with no credible air force. Had the Shah been in charge of Iran when Saddam waged war, Iran would have taken over Iraq in less than a month.

      You can imagine how incompetent Khomeini was when he ran Iran into the ground. Before Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi fled, Iran was a continental power with the fifth strongest army on earth. After Khomeini came to power, he completely destroyed Iran's air force which remains pathetic to this day. That's why Iran has made up for it with proxy groups like Hezbollah and hundreds of thousands of missiles. However they would have worked in the 1990s. Today those missiles can be put out with electromagnetic and even cyber warfare.

      Saddam was about to launch one more round of chemical attacks (with the help of air force pilots from South Africa) all over Iran targeting its inner cities like Tehran and Qom. That was when Khomeini and gang called it quits. I guess the father of neo-Islamic fundamentalism was too afraid to face torture and have his head chopped off. That would have been a befitting end to the bastard. TOO BAD IT DID NOT HAPPEN. Had I been in Saddam's place, I would have finished Khomeini off before calling it a day, nipping his "Islamic fundamentalism" in the bud.

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    17. Dear bugger, I am a Tamil speaker myself, and I have never come across this term "Ammanji" either for Tamils or for anyone else.

      You glorified the fucker Khomeini using child soldiers here:
      "weapons, nerve gas et al, and just read about how an entire generation of Iranian y0uth sacrificed life and limb to gain just a few yards of land."

      And even if it was terrible, Iraq using banned weapons was justified. The Muslim world went back to the stone age thanks to the fucker Khomeini. He should have been defeated, humiliated and executed. That would have saved the world so much trouble down the line.

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    18. Collateral damage. Koreans suffered immensely during the Korean war of 1953. But that sacrifice was necessary. Otherwise the entirety of Korea would have been one gigantic concentration camp today.

      Japan had to be nuked for all its crimes against humanity.

      Germany had to be reduced to dust in order to vanquish an extremely dangerous ideology that would have otherwise taken the world back to medieval savagery.

      While it was sad that civilians died in all of the aforementioned conflicts, well it is a conflict. People will die and get displaced en masse especially in a bitter conflict. It happens all the time.

      The ends justifies the means.

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  13. Adeel Raja aka "Jahan Soz" seems to have serious issues. Why does he always pass vulgar homophobic comments here? Is he a closet homo himself but afraid to come out due to the repercussions he might face living in an Islamic country/society?

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  14. I blame myself for engaging this weirdo JS and her constant lies, stupidity and self owns and other self inflicted fails apart from my barbs.A cat does enjoying toying with a wounded mouse, but its not very sporting. Best to make him limp back to his harem of white chicks with limp dick/tail between his legs.

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    1. He must be Adeel Raja in disguise. Look at his reactions and how easily he gets triggered.

      "Best to make him limp back to his harem of white chicks with limp dick/tail between his legs." - in his own imagination.

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    2. But why would he LARP(poorly) as a south Indian Brahmin , a militaristic one at that. Its all very weird. But then he is a weird disturbed man who is triggered terribly easily and in the process drops all his pretenses but tries to change meanings and definitions when he is caught en flagrante. Such sick toxic people are best avoided. Once again I blame myself , not to counter troll and torment primarily(admittedly I did succumb to temptation as it is too easy) but to correct the myriad of misinformation and bizarre claims. He can declare victory all he wants just as mullahs constantly declare victory as their country and military is in tatters.

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    3. Like you mentioned before, he must be a Pakistani troll masquerading as an Indian and attacking other Indians not belonging to his purported tribe left and right. Looks like your post on Israel really triggered him.

      For a troll, he sure does peddle a lot of misinformation. But he does not do it in a very convincing manner. He simply posts crap and goes off on the offensive with his extreme homophobia and bigotry.

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  15. I have a doubt though: How come Pakistani women are also involved in whorehouses in Dubai and elsewhere but their population keeps exploding while it is on a death spiral for Iran?

    Also I have never seen Iraqi or other Arab prostitutes despite all the battering Arabs have been receiving at the hands of major powers and even each other.

    Could you please explain?

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    1. Well this answer may sting all those involved. But simply put some people have more honor than others. I do respect Palestinians for putting up a fight under Arafat when they had wavering support from Arab states. Palestinian women despite a lot of financial burden did not ofte succumbed to this profession . Well they did but only in places like Jordan and Dubai and they were very very discrete . Same goes for Iraqi women, prostitutes do exist but not a whole lot and rather discrete and accept only certain clientele.
      Iranians and Pakistanis OTOH are very very pragmatic people. When going gets tough they just explore all avenues such as this and simply display their wares to the invader. Hindus of various regions have different predelictions with regard to this.

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    2. This is something I did notice of Arabs in general and Palestinians in particular. They do not give up that easily. Their resilience is for the history books.

      Palestinians are a very racist people who have nothing but contempt for others who are not them.

      But there is this quality of theirs: resilience in the face of neverending oppression, that too for more than 7 decades, which is truly admirable.

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    3. Yes Arabs tend to have many revolutions against their leaders, not saying they are all very effective or even neccesary but Arabs generally dont take kindly to being ruled over compared to Iranians who after about 1500 years woke up and bravely took over...an embassy of a foreign power which was considered friendly and toppled an ineffectual and corrupt monarch. Now that they shot their once in two millenia load of assertion and simply crib about their mullahs spending their revenue, on distant irrelevant causes such as Palestine, via promiscuity and homosexuality

      I wonder if they Iraqis later cooked the iranian kids since they were smothered in mustard anyway. It is quite symbolic as to how all the major powers treated Iranians over the last 1000 years. Iranians like to LARP that they were the ruling power in India but no these were just Persian speaking Turks. Persian was the language of high culture and administration certainly not of the military. Even now Azeris call the shots in Iran . Will the Farsi ethnic group ever achieve self determination. Sadly I doubt, they are people with a lot of ego and considerable intellectual ability but very little resolve and stomach for conflict. Though they are good at underhanding tactics as any one who dealt with an Iranian mechanic and shopkeeper will tell you. I learnt this the hard way when I took my car to a Irani mechanic in Dubai . In one instance, goddamn I caught them red handed giving me fake knockoff tires than branded ones that I paid for but the fucker just lied to my face and tried to believe I was wrong. Remind you of anyone? I threatened to call the police if he kept this up at which point he immediately switched to the default mode of his people (obsequious politeness and love bombing) , offered me tea ,sweets called brother blah blah. And asked me to forgive him for "misunderstanding" and did what i asked. Heck Pakistani pushtun mechanics are much more honest (and they aint honest). This is of course anecdotal but ask anyone with car troubles and they advise to avoid iranians like the plague.

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    4. yawwwwwn

      Australoid aborigine Boya dog. In your twisted world view Boya tribals are more martial than the people who formed the Sassanid empire LMAO.

      Bahamnis looted your Telangana home and Boya women for fun. Did any Boya invade Iran? LOL

      Telugus are the last ones to talk about honesty. The entire IT industry in the US is filled with underqualified, thieving Telugu scumbags. Thank god Trump initiated the ethnic cleansing of Telugu non Brahmin scum from the IT industry. LOL

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    5. "I will agree with you on this one: Persian language, art and aesthetics seems/sounds quite appealing and attractive. There is a good reason Sanghis say "Shaheed" instead of "Tyagi". Also that True Indology dude actually used an Ozbek/Uzbek painting as his profile picture while claiming to be an expert in Indian history!"

      I am not sure if its neccesarily due to aesthetics but that Shaheed has become part of the vernacular . Even though both words carry religious overtones Shaheed has come to denote sacrifices for secular causes (nationalism) while Tyagi implies a personal (giving up your property to help the unfortunate ) or dedicating yourself to a diety to the extant of self immolation.

      The TrueIndologys instagram page has the more Mughal or Persian looking painting( dont know what all thats about) but his twitter pic is one of a somewhat garish looking palace in jodhpur though with a majestic fort as a backdrop. While the banner is one of Sunga era stupa. I personally never been a fan of Sunga era art or architecture, it looks incredibly clumsy and half finished.

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    6. While Iranian aesthetics are appealing. Most of these were curiously under Islamic rule . Sassanid and Parthian era art and architecture were primitive knockoffs of Assyrian and Elamite precursors.

      However nowadays Persians have a very garish and one dimensional tastes. You can see this in Persian homes with white furniture and marble tiles and their paintings usually involve cats and fruits. It seems to be a regression of some sort. Persian language is supposed to sound rather sophisticated and is the gold standard for many islamicate cultures . However I prefer the sound of Urdu and Arabic. Look man, Im sure the literature is appealing but spoken Persian sounds like the person just had a stroke and is learning to speak normally.

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  16. From Quora:these are the Turkic dynasties that ruled Iran for about a 1000 years.

    1.Ghaznavids

    2. Great Seljuks Empire

    3.Ildeniz Empire

    4. Khwarazmian Shahs State

    5. Timurids (These were not Mongolians. They were all Turkish)

    6. Karakoyunlu State

    7.Akkoyunlu State

    8. Safavid State

    9. Afshar Dynasty

    10. Kachar Dynasty

    This was posted by a Turk , the comments from most Persians there are mostly copes- "oh they quickly assimiliated and married Persian women and considered themsleves Persian" hmmm no. They were rather conscious of their Turkic background and saw themselves as superiors . Many western observers well until the 1900s took note of this. It would be equivalent to Rajputs claiming that Mughals are now Rajputs because they married Rajput women and hired Rajput generals and used some Hindu aesthetics in the Taj Mahal.

    Hindus have many flaws but they dont really live in a fantasy world where they were the top dog even as foreigners ruled them. However they do take this in the opposite direction of 700/800 years of slavery even as Turkic rule waxed and waned and Hindus powers got the upper hand. 700 years certainly did not apply to southern India for instance.

    While we are making lists-
    Khilji-Turkic
    Tughlaq-Turkic
    Aibak-Turkic
    Timur- Turkic
    Mughal- Turkic
    Bahmani-Turkic
    qutb shahi Turkic from Azerbaijan
    Asaf Jah- Turk from uzbekistan
    Barid shah- Turkic from Georgia
    Imad Shahi- Kannada Muslim
    Adil Shahi- Georgian/Turkomen
    Madurai sultanate- Turkic
    Nader Shah- based in Iran but oops Turkic
    Tipu Sultan- unknown but likely of Arab or Kannada Polygar origin.
    Nawab of Arcot- Rawthers(mixed Tamil, Turkic ,Arabic and Rajput)
    there are certainly Nawabs of Avadh,Junagadh and other places of Persian origin but they were given these as jagirs and did not acquire them due to conquest. They were more famous for eating, drinking ,squandering the treasury on trinkets while the population was starving and debauchery with young boys as my other post shows.

    I hope others are now educated on the distinctions of Turks and Persians and their military abilities in India and Persia. History maybe painful but like Israel its best to learn the right lessons, from their own less than glorious 1900 years, and fix your collective psyche rather than engage in nuclear bomb levels of cope,denial and projection. Thank you

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    1. I forgot to address the Ghoris who are the fig leaf of the almost non existent Iranian martial culture post Sassanid. The general consensus is that they are not Persian but Tajik (is an eastern iranic family)*. But even that is not given . Heck even the encyclopedia Iranica which acknowledges(impliclity ) that his family maybe Turkic after all.
      https://iranicaonline.org/articles/ghurids

      "....It goes without saying that we have no concrete evidence for any of this. The chiefs of Ḡūr only achieve firm historical mention in the early 5th/11th century with the Ghaznavid raids into their land, when Ḡūr was still a pagan enclave. Nor do we know anything about the ethnic stock of the Ḡūrīs in general and the Šansabānīs in particular; we can only assume that they were eastern Iranian Tajiks."

      Looks like another "Iranian" dynasty falls to the Turks. Anyhow the Persians excelled at administration. It is one thing to conquer it is another to set up a cohesive centralized system to rule ,maintain stability and extract revenue. The world need book keepers, writers, scribes, librarians, accountants, managers, intermediaries,diplomats and the like. In other words people of the pen- Nawisandis as they were called by the Turks. These posts were invariably given to Persians. Together they made very formidable empire builders and no Indian based Turk empire could manage with them. However when a race of clerks and accountants wish to steal the glory of their masters and consider themselves fiery warlords, it is undignified and has to be addressed.

      * Persians taking credit for Tajik or Pushtun accomplishments is as absurd as say Sindhis or Punjabis basking in the glory of Persians as they were of the same family at some point.

      I wish the Persians best of luck. Its best they learn lessons from Israel on how to better assert themselves on the world stage. Mohamad Soleimani for instance was a very formidable individual indeed. I have grudging respect for his accomplishments. Of course Iran could do nothing except strike some ineffectual missiles at empty U.S camp sites in Iraq damaging some pots and pans when Trump pulverized him.
      I am just happy they didnt start another childrens crusade to take on the Rangers .

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    2. "Together they made very formidable empire builders and no Indian based Turk empire could manage with them."

      Typo: I meant Turks couldnt manage WITHOUT them.

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    3. I also wanted to mention that I dont think Iran is capable of building a functioning nuclear weapon. Ignore Netanyahu who has been crying wolf since 1996 about Iranian nuclear aggression. Except in this case there is no wolf. It is one thing to create nuclear fission reactors, another to have a nuclear weapon and another to have a capable delivery systems. Look the reason why USSR and USA had these insane number of nuclear weapons numbering in the 10s of thousands is because the chances that they are duds are incredibly high. Iran has recovered considerably since the Stuxnet attack in 2010 which according a documentary (propagated by the NSA) was inadvertently undermined by Mossad because they wanted too much too fast. However many of the scientists have been killed off or compromised. And Iran isnt exactly swimming in money at the moment . Even if the "Iran deal" is reactivated (unlikely) it is an uphill climb.
      For the record I dont think India nor Pakistan can be considered nuclear powers for the similar reasons.

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  17. YSV you have got a lot of experience with Ummah.

    "Sadly I doubt, they are people with a lot of ego and considerable intellectual ability but very little resolve and stomach for conflict"
    This description of Iranians is also true of their long lost brothers in India. I thought one of them atleast would have changed.

    I did encounter many Iranians in Bangalore. Don't know what they come to study.


    Why do you think turks were successful over other groups in running comparatively stable empires. While all others had their fair share of court rivalries at least in my reading of Indian history I feel Muslims (effectively turks) had lesser court rivalries than Hindus. Even if they had they were not to the extent of collapsing the kingdoms.

    I am aware of their military advantages due to horses and other advancements, but they still lost many times. I think this lower court rivalries was the reason for their prolonged rule.

    Does their tribal origins play a role here?

    "Hindus have many flaws but they dont really live in a fantasy world where they were the top dog even as foreigners ruled them. However they do take this in the opposite direction of 700/800 years of slavery even as Turkic rule waxed and waned and Hindus powers got the upper hand. 700 years certainly did not apply to southern India for instance."

    You described exactly what I always hated about Indian right and also left. And many times Hindu kings like reddi kingdom was happy to align with Bahamanis than Vijayanagar.

    I remember reading Ghurids being Buddhist. The region of Ghor was Buddhist for a considerable time till 11th or 12th century

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  18. Guys, have you been following captain's blog?

    Check out his latest blog post here (WARNING: Explicit image ahead):
    https://ajitvadakayil.blogspot.com/2021/05/trisha-shetty-jewish-deep-state-darling.html

    From advising Modi and Putin to chasing some random woman on Twitter. What a fall for the Big Man!

    His latest blog post is hilarious and it has an explicit but really funny image. Check it out.

    Oh, and here seems to be a separate blog which someone (either captain himself or one of his fans) has opened up targeting some Twitter/Instagram influencer!
    https://check1234321.blogspot.com/2021/06/blog-post.html
    https://check1234321.blogspot.com/2021/06/email-addresses.html

    Captain is going crazy. Someone please help him out asap!

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      I guess the captain is subconsciously honey potting himself by falling for this broad and deflecting attention from the powerful. This is what happens when you have a guy who thinks he is good looking ,sexy and that women are swarming over him even as reality does not comply. We see another example of this in the message board here. Such types just lose their grasp of reality.

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    2. Captain seriously needs help.

      But I do wonder though. Why are some captain fans spamming this blog all of a sudden? Did he say something about you that diverted his fans here? Because you never spoke about him in a very long time.

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  19. "Why do you think turks were successful over other groups in running comparatively stable empires. While all others had their fair share of court rivalries at least in my reading of Indian history I feel Muslims (effectively turks) had lesser court rivalries than Hindus. Even if they had they were not to the extent of collapsing the kingdoms.

    I am aware of their military advantages due to horses and other advancements, but they still lost many times. I think this lower court rivalries was the reason for their prolonged rule.

    Does their tribal origins play a role here?"

    The earliest Turkic dynasties such as Khiljis and Aibak ran a cruel and oppressive state( even by the standards of those days) , they viewed India only as a source of revenue and little else and hence did not care to integrate and collaborate with local powers as the Mughals did( even as Mughals saw themsleves as rulers of Hindustan but still Turks).
    The Turkic dynasties could do this due to the constant influx soldiers and horses from Central Asia. Hence court intrigues and fratricides tore them apart as they were just insular and expansionist at the same time.
    However Musunuri Nayakas who overthrew Turkic rule of (something Iranians could never manage) of Mohd Tughluq within a generation. Tughluqs are unable to respond effectively due to the Mongol threat, the distance involved , famine in Doab and an epidimic. of course he carried out a disastrous scheme of the shifting the capital from Delhi to Devagiri (Daulatbad) to keep an eye on the Deccan but this just further damaged the empire.

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    1. The Ottoman Turks had the advantage of the existing Byzantine beureucray composed of literate Greeks, Armenians (and later Jews) in their midst. The very word Byzantine is synonymous for complex rules and procedures and is considered the prototype for the "deep state". Similary the Safavids in Persia made use of the nawisandas of which there was no shortage.

      Kapaya Nayaka who helped liberate Telangana himself took the help of Allaudin Bahman Shah(a Turk who named himself after a noble Iranian king just as Thais and Korean nobility claimed descent from Rama) but the latter stabbed him in the back and he had to cede many territories. This is another problem with Turks and Iranians is that they had no code of ethics or honor- they would invite kings under false pretenses such as Shapur did with Valerian and captured him. Similar thing happened with Ghiyasuddin and Veer Ballala. And we see people beat their chest about capturing kings as if thru bravery ahahaha

      Tribal nomadic societies are cohesive when they are mobile but it dissipates when they settle into their conquered territories. The same happened with Arabs.

      "You described exactly what I always hated about Indian right and also left. And many times Hindu kings like reddi kingdom was happy to align with Bahamanis than Vijayanagar."

      Well as I mentioned Kapaya Nayaka made the disastrous mistake of supporting Alaudin Bahman Shah. However at the same time, the power structures and struggles were more complex than simply Hindu vs Muslim. Vijayanagar spent more resources per capita capturing and subduing TN than they did Bahmanis. Because it was the wealthiest region from which to extract revenue and there were constant rebellions. At one Chennapa Nayaka, the main governer of the Tamil region was more powerful than the Vijayanagar emperor. Similarly SKDR did spend a lot of resources against Gajapati Rajus of Orissa, once even to satiate his ego since the King would not give his daughter in marriage to him because he was not a Kshatriya.

      Anyhow Reddys werent really included in the power structure of Vijayanagar as for whatever reason the Hoysala founders of Vijayanagar preferred to ally with them. So why ally with someone who rejected you?


      "I remember reading Ghurids being Buddhist. The region of Ghor was Buddhist for a considerable time till 11th or 12th century"
      The elites were likely Buddhist but the common folk had their indigenous , Iranian and Shaivite beliefs. Buddhist generally wasnt a religion of the masses in the Indian subcontinent. In Tibet and South East Asia Buddhism coalesced with local beliefs to far greater extent than in India or central Asia.

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    3. "Anyhow Reddys werent really included in the power structure of Vijayanagar as for whatever reason the Hoysala founders of Vijayanagar preferred to ally with them."

      sorry typo , I meant that Hoysala founders preferred to ally with Kammas. I think because they were already established aristocracy in the Kakatiya era while Reddys were considered just hired muscle at the time.

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    2. Why do so many of your comments seem to start from a middle of a conversation to which no one else was privy?There is no relevance to any of the other comments or the main post.

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    3. I wanted to post it because I found it was interesting. Also the blog was idle for a few weeks so I do not know in the middle of which conversation I started my comments and derailed it.

      Anyway I have deleted all my posts. I apologize for any inconvenience caused. I will not repeat it in the future.

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