tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2292201847928976780.post3949575585775821287..comments2024-03-20T15:58:23.934+00:00Comments on Yantra , Tantra, Mantra: Why are our super patriots so insecure?ysv_raohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06078517736366792665noreply@blogger.comBlogger229125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2292201847928976780.post-17911297060998691792022-09-18T12:01:14.198+01:002022-09-18T12:01:14.198+01:00Your stupidity and incoherence aside- I will addre...Your stupidity and incoherence aside- I will address this issue<br />I actually like Tucker Carlson which is why his ignorant comments are rather upsetting. There was a time when Americans were instinctively anti Empire but somehow over time British apol managed to squirm into the American historical consciousness affecting all political parties alike<br />I have no love for British imperialism . That is obvious to all who have an above room temperature IQ which obviously excludes you.<br />ysv_raohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06078517736366792665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2292201847928976780.post-79928753869503472822022-09-17T12:52:01.866+01:002022-09-17T12:52:01.866+01:00for the context as why i mentioned ysv rao pro mon...for the context as why i mentioned ysv rao pro monorachist, british grifter here is one the article that was posted in 2014 as example we can find few more , as timing correct as queen has died aand tucker carlson rant went viral where Fox News host Tucker Carlson made the untrue claim that India lacked civilisation and had not produced any architectural wonders prior to the start of the British colonial era ysv rao was way ahead in this curve and other twitter handles mentioned earlier were echoing such sentiments ,borrowing white nationalist narrative <br /> https://www.india.com/viral/viral-video-shashi-tharoor-left-fuming-after-fox-news-anchor-says-britain-civilised-india-5631971/moonlifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13961818039724811587noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2292201847928976780.post-23779312803390947792017-12-31T00:15:02.629+00:002017-12-31T00:15:02.629+00:00Hearing Aid Batteries Tips, Hearing aids often use...<a href="http://www.hearingaidlabs.co.za/index.php/blog/149-indispensable-caring-tips-for-your-hearing-aids-batteries" rel="nofollow"><b>Hearing Aid Batteries</b></a> Tips, Hearing aids often use batteries, but the size often varies depending on the gadget. Some even have optional rechargeable batteries. When replacing hearing aid batteries, ensure that they are placed in the compartment with the flat side or plus (+) symbol facing upwards. Any other way will damage your hearing aid.<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06071275054245572884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2292201847928976780.post-64019635170506082222015-03-11T10:03:42.561+00:002015-03-11T10:03:42.561+00:00"In a previous era, wars would've broken ..."In a previous era, wars would've broken out eg Cholas and Chalukyas over this issue, now only political battles,breakdown of interstate commerce and riots!"<br />There is another difference between the previous era and now. In those days no one had the technology to build gigantic dams like we have now. People only stored enough water in their tanks for agriculture and drinking water for a small population. With modern dams, it is possible to completely block the flow of a river or even make an entire sea go dry like the Soviets did with the Aral sea. This is why an impartial oversight body is needed to ensure equitable water distribution.Prem Chandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00116823815570239798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2292201847928976780.post-41224271284912380292015-03-10T15:07:33.931+00:002015-03-10T15:07:33.931+00:00"Well ideally, democracy should not be about ..."Well ideally, democracy should not be about money,..." - Prem Chand that was the ideal scenario on which the democracy was envisioned :) But reality is quite rough as YSV has pointed out.Infact what I would like to add to the observation of YSV is that the numbers game requires money,power and connections even in the most advanced democracies.However the best safegaurd to ideal democratic values that we can give is ensuring a free economy with minimum restrictions on all human endeavours.Jamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00848084563007231209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2292201847928976780.post-55761862394789120072015-03-10T13:37:05.720+00:002015-03-10T13:37:05.720+00:00Well ideally, democracy should not be about money,...Well ideally, democracy should not be about money, connections, etc since power corrupts. Oligarchy is what ruined Russia.<br />About Brahmins, well if Indian society is a totem pole, they are at the very top. If the constituents choose a non-Brahmin candidate over a Brahmin candidate, it is not discrimination but Democracy in play. That's just the way Democracy works.Prem Chandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00116823815570239798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2292201847928976780.post-31661300213169801042015-03-10T12:21:12.898+00:002015-03-10T12:21:12.898+00:00"So they now become true Tamil sons of the so..."So they now become true Tamil sons of the soil to stay in power."<br />That is indeed true. Vaiko and Vijayakanth are other examples of politicians in TN of Telugu origin, who act more Tamil than the Tamils themselves.<br />It works like this: Telugus under the Vijayanagar empire and Marathis under the Maratha empire took over control of TN after the Chola powerhold shrank and shrank into oblivion. For some reason, these two cultural groups were not interested in patronizing Tamil scholarship. Not that they deliberately suppressed it, they just didn't give a damn either way. As a result, the importance of Tamil waned in their own land. Before the Dravidianist parties came to power for example, Carnatic concerts always featured kirtanas in Telugu or Kannada. There was even an incident once when a vocalist insisted on singing in Tamil, and once the concert was over, the outraged managers 'purified' the premises with rituals to expiate the sin of singing in Tamil! Now, after being humiliated like this in their own land, the people understandably preferred non-Tamils who identified themselves as super-Tamil.Prem Chandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00116823815570239798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2292201847928976780.post-1735219020162029622015-03-10T11:34:55.976+00:002015-03-10T11:34:55.976+00:00I am sure you realize in India, esp South India, d...I am sure you realize in India, esp South India, dark and light with regard to skin complexion is relative. DMK leaders may have been dark skinned(with exceptions like Periyar, Jayalalitha and MGR) but they were lighter than Kamaraj. As to mocking him for being dark skinned while subscribing to Dravidian victimhood against racist Aryans, well simplyDravidians are racist and hypocrites and have internalized a lot of the bigotry against dark skin.<br /><br />In African Americans, there was a similar phenomenon. I remember I had a fair skinned black American female friend in college in U.S(I mean fair enough to pass off as Punjabi or Levantine Arab). She said she had attended a college in Tennesee which was a historically black college and for a long time they had something called a paper bag test for admission. It was that if your complexion was darker than a paper bag(which were light brown in color) you couldn't get in<br /><br />And speaking of blacks, Florida is not poor or majority black.That would be Washington DC LOL.<br />Texas may be rich but as of now it is less than 50% white, remaining beingmostly Hispanic and black.<br /><br />Mississipi in 2005 had suffered a worse hurricane than Katrina but survived as they were better prepared and they had proper governance.<br />Louisiana,esp New Orleans which bore the brunt of the hurricane was spectacularly corrupt and inept. They had been warned for years by FEMA under the Bush administration that they were vulnerable to a major hurricane but they did nothing.<br /><br />FEMA was not needed in Mississipi as much because most states are expected to have their own emergency services on standby. In such situations ,time is crucial and FEMA's real role is coordination between the respective agencies to get the job done.<br /><br />Notice there have been hurricanes since the very able Bobby Jindal became governor but no catastrophe.<br />Hindutvadis may not like Jindal due to his conversion to Catholicism but as he is respected as a great administrator and leader.<br />Judge him as how Americans see him , not by Indian standards since well he is American.<br />ysv_raohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06078517736366792665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2292201847928976780.post-84642709912558707492015-03-10T11:22:14.994+00:002015-03-10T11:22:14.994+00:00Periyar lambasted women for dressing provocatively...Periyar lambasted women for dressing provocatively and wearing make up. This sounds just puritanical. He turned a blind eye to his followers taking more than one wife/mistress.<br /><br />Yes a lot of these super Tamil head honchos are actually non Tamil in origin. Even Karunanidhi I believe. I am not quite sure what dynamic is in work here except the ruling powers over TN since the last 400 years were usually Telugu and are loathe to relinquish what they consider their birthright. So they now become true Tamil sons of the soil to stay in power.<br />I say this as a Telugu , that these crypto Telugus masquerading as Tamils are being immoral in hoodwinking the Tamil people<br />But then by god Tamil people in their extreme emotional state can be manipulated into believing or doing anything<br />When Malayalee MGR got a stroke and lost use of one of his arms, many Tamils proceeded to chop off their arms in solidarity. I admire Tamil passion but these days it is more often utilized for such foolishnessysv_raohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06078517736366792665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2292201847928976780.post-88806292340189823232015-03-10T10:13:50.493+00:002015-03-10T10:13:50.493+00:00"The distribution of Kaveri is between Tamils..."The distribution of Kaveri is between Tamils and Kannadigas and no one else."<br />Yes, but a third party brings in impartiality. The Katrina hurricane disaster in the US could have been better handled if the federal government stepped in. If rich white Texas didn't want to help poor black Florida, only Uncle Sam could save the day right?Prem Chandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00116823815570239798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2292201847928976780.post-74757966489762516922015-03-10T10:06:23.812+00:002015-03-10T10:06:23.812+00:00"..when it comes to social relations between ..."..when it comes to social relations between men and women he would almost sound like Khomeini.."<br />Periyar wrote a book titled 'Why did woman become a slave?' in Tamil. I have not read the book, so I dont know his views on the subject. But I think he courted controversy to make women feel responsible for their inferior status in society and work towards changing that. Again, I need more data. He did treat his wife with respect and something approaching equality. In TN, his legacy is that of a reformer in all fields. Did you know that for all his vaunted chauvinism, he was not a Tamil himself? He was born into a Telugu-speaking Naidu family (EVP Naicker-> Naicker means Naidu in Tamil). He also expressed some derogatory views about Tamil language.<br />"..DMK leaders would mock the Nadar leader Kamaraj's dark skin.."<br />Are you sure this happened? Many DMK leaders were themselves dark-skinned and were using that Aryan/Dravidian rhetoric. It wouldn't help them to call Kamaraj an African ape. But that reminds me of the main reason I hate the DMK- they came to power by ousting Kamaraj.<br />Kamaraj belonged to a lower caste whose lot before Independence was.. hell.Prem Chandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00116823815570239798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2292201847928976780.post-52298118209126795212015-03-10T08:51:38.949+00:002015-03-10T08:51:38.949+00:00Democracy is not just a numbers game but also mone...Democracy is not just a numbers game but also money,connections ,power and social standing game. Why Jews and minorities like blacks can get elected to high positions in U.S is due to the clout they possess across the boards and the connections to the power brokers such as unions as well as big moneyed individuals and corporations.<br />Brahmins had this before but they do not now. I am not saying that Brahmins deserve political representation , that is upto them and what they wish. But don't tell me that patting them on the head and making them know their place in the totem pole is not condescension and discrimination.ysv_raohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06078517736366792665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2292201847928976780.post-26205342389995948692015-03-10T08:47:17.913+00:002015-03-10T08:47:17.913+00:00@ Prem Chand
Thanks for the complete Periyar whic...@ Prem Chand<br /><br />Thanks for the complete Periyar which I was unaware. Well it sheds a better light on him. I am in agreement with both Periyar and Rajaji. I believe prostitution should exist and perhaps legalized. At the same time not restricted to a caste. If some destitute Brahmin or any other woman has this as the only recourse to feed her family, its not upto me to judge. <br /><br />A couple of things about Periyar, when it comes to social relations between men and women he would almost sound like Khomeini due to his extreme conservative(can we say Brahminical?) views.<br /><br />He spoke well about defending the lower castes but what is the DMK legacy in that regard? Is the oppression of lower castes subsided? DMK then as now is the triumph of middle and higher non Brahmin castes over Brahmins and lower castes esp Pariyars/Dalits. So much so that DMK leaders would mock the Nadar leader Kamaraj's dark skin by referring to him as an African apeysv_raohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06078517736366792665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2292201847928976780.post-6037186448070840532015-03-10T08:40:38.845+00:002015-03-10T08:40:38.845+00:00I certainly don't say that DMK created whateve...I certainly don't say that DMK created whatever problems TN has and its frayed relations with other which you are correct to notice has a long history. My point is that they exploit by the emotional power of their ideology and not proper governance. Whatever progress Tamils made is mostly despite them not because of them.<br />Many states have waters that originate in outside areas. Heck in cases like Punjab and UP, they even originate in foreign countries.<br />Please lets have no talk of "nationalizing" anything. The less the federal government gets involved in this the better. The distribution of Kaveri is between Tamils and Kannadigas and no one else.<br />In a previous era, wars would've broken out eg Cholas and Chalukyas over this issue, now only political battles,breakdown of interstate commerce and riots!<br />ysv_raohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06078517736366792665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2292201847928976780.post-14394072286135060032015-03-09T12:45:53.366+00:002015-03-09T12:45:53.366+00:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18107123071751214400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2292201847928976780.post-75792949343916405382015-03-09T11:59:03.474+00:002015-03-09T11:59:03.474+00:00Prem Chand whatever you have said about the develo...Prem Chand whatever you have said about the development of TN is very true.If I am not wrong then TN is the best state among the 4 South Indian states in terms of modern development aspects like infra,industrialisation etc.Jamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00848084563007231209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2292201847928976780.post-86939291281533121782015-03-09T11:14:36.958+00:002015-03-09T11:14:36.958+00:00@ ysv
"...Periyar who said charming things li...@ ysv<br />"...Periyar who said charming things like "Brahmin women should be made public property for all to enjoy""<br /><br />If my memory serves right, your quote is incomplete. What happened was this: Rajagopalachari, the then Brahmin CM of TN was against banning the Devadaasi prostitution system. His unique reasoning went like this: "If prostitution is outlawed, rich men will not be able to satisfy their urges, and they will start lusting married women. This will destabilize our culture. Hence we should not mess with ancient tradition." Periyar, known for his caustic sarcasm retorted: "OK we'll keep the Devadaasi sytem. But instead of the low-caste women who had to do this for so long, we'll give the opportunity to Brahmin women"<br />Needless to say, this kind of blunt language would be seen as offensive in modern politics.Prem Chandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00116823815570239798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2292201847928976780.post-76314562280887696972015-03-09T08:49:56.227+00:002015-03-09T08:49:56.227+00:00It is true, DMK misbehaved in the past, even with ...It is true, DMK misbehaved in the past, even with their own party members. For example Jayalalitha was made to do a Draupadi in the State legislature hall. That was long ago. At the time, the party was a magnet for idealogues as well as thugs. I too am not eulogising DMK, but we need to recognize the good it has done to TN. Regarding ysv's comments about Tamils seeking better opportunities outside TN, this is just bizarre. Chennai is the biggest metropolitan city in South India. Hyderabad has infrastructure problems and Owaisi domination by ysv's own admission. Bangalore cannot chug on without its IT lifeline. Trivandrum is a backwater that matters nought. The only problem with Chennai is its hot and humid climate, over which we have no control.<br />Even TN's 2nd-tier cities report good sanitation and business (for Indian cities). Tamils are a dime-a-dozen in Bangalore because:<br />1) Bangalore is extremely close to the border with TN. Check a map to find out just how close.<br />2) The IT industry draws in youth from all over South India and even the North.<br />3) A Tamil community has existed in Bangalore since the 18th century, formed by mercenaries fighting in Tipu Sultan's army.<br />The tension between TN and its neighbours has less to do with Dravidianist idealogy than water-sharing disputes. The state's pathetic fate is that most of its life-line rivers originate outside its borders. This wasn't a problem until the States Reorganization Act. After that, our smart leaders in Delhi neglected to nationalize the rivers or take any proactive steps about water sharing, and the chicken has finally come home to roost.Prem Chandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00116823815570239798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2292201847928976780.post-20589244683676713662015-03-09T07:13:20.035+00:002015-03-09T07:13:20.035+00:00I agree with your point of numbers in democracy.Br...I agree with your point of numbers in democracy.Brahmins actually do not matter much as an electorate.IN UP BJP banks on the higher castes as a whole and not on Brahmins alone.<br />But on the Hitler issue,I agree with you only partially.While it's true that DMK was far from being a Hitler,still there are ways in a democracy by which you can show the door to a particular group,be it caste or ethnicity,which YSV pointed out in his previous answers.You can evict a tenant from your home without killing him,just by creating unfavourable circumstances for him to stay.And I am not eulogising Tamil Brahmins in any way.I am just trying to say that this was more of the political numbers game which probably even paid DMK good dividends.Jamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00848084563007231209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2292201847928976780.post-7224797593290166952015-03-09T06:47:38.975+00:002015-03-09T06:47:38.975+00:00Political representation in a democracy is a numbe...Political representation in a democracy is a numbers game. If Brahmins are not well-represented in the Legislative assembly, it is because they are a teensy minority (that is how it has been all the time, all over India.)<br />I was talking about exodus rather than genocide. The Nazi regime instigated both. The DMK instigated neither.Prem Chandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00116823815570239798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2292201847928976780.post-66353792819183512482015-03-07T10:05:15.018+00:002015-03-07T10:05:15.018+00:00Whats in a name! Savarkar used the word Hindu and ...Whats in a name! Savarkar used the word Hindu and Hindustan because those use of those words have become quite common. <br /><br />Wars in Indian history were waged by political leaders for increasing their power. Ancient India rarely saw a war that was waged in name of ethnic identity or religion. <br /><br />Even within Chola, Avanti and Gandhara there were diverse religious and ideological factions that ranged from theists, agnostics and atheists. But nonetheless, they all did feel that Indian subcontinent was unique and different from rest of the world. <br /><br />No one could give a proper explanation about why this feeling was prevalent in Indians. Thinkers either tended to highlight religious factors or came up with explanations that hardly anyone could understand - until Savarkar.<br /><br />He gave a simple and rather accurate explanation for why Indians felt a shared identity. His concept of Hindu is one that is based on membership in an ancient geographical, racial and historical community. Sagar Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10366138017961737186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2292201847928976780.post-5025396044713919292015-03-06T19:14:02.139+00:002015-03-06T19:14:02.139+00:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18107123071751214400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2292201847928976780.post-87387874429940047962015-03-06T15:56:39.899+00:002015-03-06T15:56:39.899+00:00I am not defending Tamil Brahmins or anyone else f...I am not defending Tamil Brahmins or anyone else for that matter. I am simply stating facts, if your low IQ Dravidian racist Rajnikanth( btw he is Marathi)worshipping mentality is upset by that, its not my problem.<br /><br />I will ignore the stupid conjecture about Musharraf being an Iyer at it is too braindead to consider.<br /><br />Supporting Nazi Germany during WWII for the sake of self interest is different from defending and justifying their actions today? Seriously dude are you really this retarded? I support SCB and his alliance with Hitler, after enemies enemy and all that. Tamil Iyers like most of India were torn between loyalty to British and independence struggle. The latter consisting mainly of Gandhi camp and violent action.And the latter again were split into supporting INA and splinter insurgent groups. It was the former who were for supporting Hitler.<br /><br />If you have a problem with that, take it up with the Thevar/Maravar community who were well represented in the INA.<br /><br />Dravidian supremacists call themselves rationalists but in general they are themost ignorant, bigoted and brain dead individuals alive. Your posts almost constantly prove it.<br /><br />Thanks to your heroic DMKs devastation of Tamil culture and mindset for the last half century, the term rational sensible Tamil is almost an oxymoron as you prove so well.ysv_raohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06078517736366792665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2292201847928976780.post-84031600871691691282015-03-06T14:11:22.331+00:002015-03-06T14:11:22.331+00:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18107123071751214400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2292201847928976780.post-8094537276623788172015-03-06T14:06:56.152+00:002015-03-06T14:06:56.152+00:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18107123071751214400noreply@blogger.com